The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

SmarterthanYou said:
5th Amendment. read it again. then read it again. then again if you still don't understand what it means
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Since you can't explain it and are obviously trying to justify murdering police with it, it's you who clearly do not understand it.

Besides, the Declaration of Independence was written before the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Since you can't explain it and are obviously trying to justify murdering police with it, it's you who clearly do not understand it.

Besides, the Declaration of Independence was written before the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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you're seriously stuck on stupid today. did you have enough coffee? Because you are churning out a lot of crap.

Question, does the Declaration of Independence become null and void now that a constitution and bill of rights was ratified?
 
Jarod said:
So we are only "entitled to own any weapons that the government would use against them for tyrannical purposes"?
So if a person is not to be trusted in public, then the right becomes alienable? I thought the right was inalienable? If its inalienable everyone in prison should be allowed to be armed, right?
So we can alienate people from their rights if we give them due process of law? That does not sound like inalienable, it sounds alienable to me....

You see, you make these silly and over braud claims when they suit you, but the second you point out how silly the over braud claims are, you run.
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Yes. :laugh: The problem comes in with the analogy of "the right to swing my fist ends at the point of another person's nose".

Yes, I have an inalienable right to attack a tyrannical government. Does that give me the right to do was STY wants to do and Timothy McVeigh did? No, it does not.

How many more people would have died on April 19th, 1995 is McVeigh had used a 10 kiloton nuke instead of a homemade fertilizer bomb? Is there any doubt he would have used one if he could? That STY would use one if he had one?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you're seriously stuck on stupid today. did you have enough coffee? Because you are churning out a lot of crap.....
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The fact you lead with multiple insults means you are lying and vulnerable. You are a weak asshole who deserves to be in prison for your crimes.

Contrary to your beliefs, the Declaration of Independence is a founding document and remains part of our system of government. However, like your oath to the Constitution after leaving the service, it's not legally binding.


https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration
The Declaration of Independence states the principles on which our government, and our identity as Americans, are based. Unlike the other founding documents, the Declaration of Independence is not legally binding, but it is powerful. Abraham Lincoln called it “a rebuke and a stumbling-block to tyranny and oppression.” It continues to inspire people around the world to fight for freedom and equality.
 
Flash said:
How many had guns? The same laws should apply to them as all other convicted felons. Many of them were charged with misdemeanors (curfew).
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dude.....the restrictions go into place AFTER someone is a convicted felon......no one has been convicted of anything at this point......
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The fact you lead with multiple insults means you are lying and vulnerable. You are a weak asshole who deserves to be in prison for your crimes.

Contrary to your beliefs, the Declaration of Independence is a founding document and remains part of our system of government. However, like your oath to the Constitution after leaving the service, it's not legally binding.


https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration
The Declaration of Independence states the principles on which our government, and our identity as Americans, are based. Unlike the other founding documents, the Declaration of Independence is not legally binding, but it is powerful. Abraham Lincoln called it “a rebuke and a stumbling-block to tyranny and oppression.” It continues to inspire people around the world to fight for freedom and equality.
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you seem to be having a difficult time staying on topic, probably because you're frothing at the mouth hoping to anger me or shut me down.....good luck.

so, if the declaration is still a founding document, the intimations of certain inalienable rights would still be valid today, am I right?
 
Jarod said:
If you participated in an armed insurrection on the United States Capitol, you should lose your right to carry a firearm for life.


Agreed?
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I can assure you that every one convicted of a felony in this case will be banned from gun ownership and voting.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yes. :laugh: The problem comes in with the analogy of "the right to swing my fist ends at the point of another person's nose".

Yes, I have an inalienable right to attack a tyrannical government. Does that give me the right to do was STY wants to do and Timothy McVeigh did? No, it does not.

How many more people would have died on April 19th, 1995 is McVeigh had used a 10 kiloton nuke instead of a homemade fertilizer bomb? Is there any doubt he would have used one if he could? That STY would use one if he had one?
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let me guess. you think that we should officially inform the federal government that they have become tyrannical and then telegraph where we are going to strike. am I right, fake marine?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you seem to be having a difficult time staying on topic, probably because you're frothing at the mouth hoping to anger me or shut me down.....good luck.

so, if the declaration is still a founding document, the intimations of certain inalienable rights would still be valid today, am I right?
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You're free to ignore me, just not the FBI. :laugh:

Yes, we all have inalienable rights. Now explain to me how that give you the right to overthrow the government of We, the People and murder Americans.
 
LV426 said:
It actually says "Well-regulated" before that, though. Does that part just not count?
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No. It's a different reference.

I've always found it odd how the LWLs always cherry-pick from the Second Amendment but never the other nine in the Bill of Rights.

Although Democrats didn't exist in those days, the ideology of "big government" did exist which is one why many of the Founders were against a Bill of Rights because they knew there would be asshole authoritarians who wanted to use that as a limitation on We, the People, not a limitation on the Federal government.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
let me guess. you think that we should officially inform the federal government that they have become tyrannical and then telegraph where we are going to strike. am I right, fake marine?
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Dude, you're liar and the fake Marine. The fact you don't even capitalize the word tells me you either never served or were a Terminal Lance who has denounced his oath and the Marine Corps.

You are free to insult me and lie about me all you want and I support your right to do so for two reasons: One, I've sworn to support and defend the Constitution even against murderous assholes like you. Two, because it works in my favor to have constant proof you are a liar.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No. It's a different reference.

I've always found it odd how the LWLs always cherry-pick from the Second Amendment but never the other nine in the Bill of Rights.

Although Democrats didn't exist in those days, the ideology of "big government" did exist which is one why many of the Founders were against a Bill of Rights because they knew there would be asshole authoritarians who wanted to use that as a limitation on We, the People, not a limitation on the Federal government.
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It's stupid and dumb to pretend that you know what was in the minds of the Founding Fathers 250 years ago.

It's also stupid and dumb to apply 18th century ideas to 21st century governance.

The failure of any single state to get a handle on COVID, and vaccine distribution, proves that federalization is what we need, not regression to what some people think the Founding Fathers intended back in the 1770's.

Do you apply all 18th century things to your life, or just to government?

Do you use an outhouse?

Do you use leeches for medical care?

Do you get around in a horse and buggy?

Do you use carrier pigeons to communicate with people?

NO?

So then why do you apply 18th century thinking to government but not to anything else in your personal life?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, you're liar and the fake Marine. The fact you don't even capitalize the word tells me you either never served or were a Terminal Lance who has denounced his oath and the Marine Corps.

You are free to insult me and lie about me all you want and I support your right to do so for two reasons: One, I've sworn to support and defend the Constitution even against murderous assholes like you. Two, because it works in my favor to have constant proof you are a liar.
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He was a "Marine".

Meaning, his "job" was to sit in an air conditioned room and stare at a screen, directing traffic.

So basically, what 30,000 people do every day in this country for no special accommodations or privileges.
 
LV426 said:
He was a "Marine".

Meaning, his "job" was to sit in an air conditioned room and stare at a screen, directing traffic.

So basically, what 30,000 people do every day in this country for no special accommodations or privileges.
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I sat in a sunlit tower of windows and directed traffic. get it right
 
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