Coercive Interrogations Worked

ID wont answer it because it means nothing to her.


The defense of everything Bush did is all she is about.
 
Yurt said:
when captured, reality has shown they almost always are
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That ain't true either my brother .. and it doesn't answer the question.

Jessica Lynch and many others were not tortured, and in fact, contrary to the now known fraudulent Hollywood production called "The Rescue of Jessica Lynch", she was helped by Iraqis who also tried to deliver her to US forces, was not tortured, and she will tell you that herself.

This is not to say that none are tortured, but when we torture we lose all argument against why our own troops shouldn't be tortured .. which is why it's so difficult for supporters of torture to answer that simple question.

In fact, by supporting torture you not only condone the use of torture on our own troops, you condone the use of torture on civilians because some of those we torture are not soldiers and are not terrorists.

Many Americans have loved ones in the military and in service all over the world.

You should rethink your position on this issue.

Are you a witch?

I guarantee that if you were tortured you would confess to being a witch.
 
blackascoal said:
I mean should US soldiers be tortured .. period.

Torture is torture.

Why haven't we found the WMD that torture/inhanced techniques said was there?

Are there any witches?
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because torture probably never provided that information in the first place.
 
Grind said:
this is a stupid question. It's like saying should u.s. soldiers be killed because they kill.
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The answer to that question is yes.

See how easy that was.

How about you answering the question of if US soldiers AND civilians should be tortured .. without the misplaced metaphors.
 
Mottleydude said:
Torturing people, for any reason, is wrong.
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Two men kidnap your daughter. You manage to track one of them down but you don't know the location of the other man who is with your daughter and planning on raping/killing her.

You torture the accomplice until he tells you where they are so you can save your daughter.

If you think torture in this scenario is wrong, I got nothing for ya.
 
Grind said:
only pussies say this.
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It's not only wrong, it's stupid.

If tortured, you would proclaim yourself to be the biggest pussy the world has ever known .. and if they want you to you'll say it with a smile .. with a large penis in your mouth .. while you tell them where Bin laden is and where Saddam hid the WMD.
 
blackascoal said:
The answer to that question is yes.

See how easy that was.

How about you answering the question of if US soldiers AND civilians should be tortured .. without the misplaced metaphors.
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War isn't about equality and fairness BAC it's about killing the other side and breaking things. If I am in a war I want the other side dead and I want my guys alive. So it's a stupid question for you to ask if I want us soldiers tortured. of course I don't.

But if your premise is, because we torture, the other side will torture us, I am not convinced by your single jessica lynch story that they wouldn't already be tortuing us.

But lets pretend we live in your fantasy world where no one at this time would torture our soldiers, but would if we started using torture, I still say yes we would need to torture in extreme circumstances.

These circumstances are defined by me as imminent disaster "ticking time bomb" scnearios in which millions of lives are at risk and we have a solid reason to suspect someone may have information to prevent such an occurance.

If it's about finding a piece of enemy artillery in the field or something of that nature, no I probably wouldn't support torture. Only extreme circumstances.

I do not believe torture in all circumstances is wrong.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Did you mean enhanced interrorgation techniques being used on our soldiers in the same manner we have used them with doctors present etc etc etc? Or did you mean having their bones broken, hot irons use on their eyes, fingernails pulled out, or how about just chopping off their heads etc etc etc?

To save innocent lives and protect society, I believe that our president must have whatever resources available to him that will accomplish that end.

"CIA Director Leon Panetta said during his confirmation hearings that even the Obama administration might use some of the enhanced techniques in a "ticking time bomb" scenario."

Article here
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Where I come from we call people who think like this "Yellow bellied cowards". Your position is not only rediculous. It's chicken shit cowardly and I won't condone it.
 
blackascoal said:
It's not only wrong, it's stupid.

If tortured, you would proclaim yourself to be the biggest pussy the world has ever known .. and if they want you to you'll say it with a smile .. with a large penis in your mouth .. while you tell them where Bin laden is and where Saddam hid the WMD.
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One would also tell the truth if they knew it.

This is how torture works:

You torture someone, they give you information. You then verify said information. If it comes back false, you determine if it is likely that your terror suspect was still lying while being jabbed by hot pokers. Usually that's not the case. Because as you said, you'll say anything while being tortured, including the truth.
 
Grind said:
Two men kidnap your daughter. You manage to track one of them down but you don't know the location of the other man who is with your daughter and planning on raping/killing her.

You torture the accomplice until he tells you where they are so you can save your daughter.

If you think torture in this scenario is wrong, I got nothing for ya.
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Dude, you never saw Dirty Harry, did you?
 
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