Most Voters Consider Joe Biden a ‘Puppet of the Radical Left’

Flash said:
The ones who made these claims have to provide some evidence that they occurred and you have not done so and neither have any of those claiming fraud.

However, I will play your game.

1. Check the 1960 election and you will see Nixon won FL and OH but lost the election. That easily disproves one of Trump's claims. https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

2. Name one county or state that casts more votes than registered voters and I will disprove your claim. If you cannot name one then obviously it did not happen.
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I never argued with point one except for anyone to claim "liar, liar". People make mistakes all the time.

Regarding #2: https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/new-jw-study-voter-registration/
 
China Joe said:
I never argued with point one except for anyone to claim "liar, liar". People make mistakes all the time.

Regarding #2: https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/new-jw-study-voter-registration/
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#2: Does not apply. Those claiming voter fraud said more people voted than the number of registered voters in some areas. This study does is not about more votes than registered voters.

This Judicial Watch study said there were more registered voters than the number of eligible voters. The number of eligible voters is determined by five-year population estimates by the Census Bureau.

These are just estimates and numbers can change substantially in a five-year period; for example, Texas gains about 374,000 people per year. The Census Bureau has to estimate how many of these people are eligible voters and 1.8 million in five years substantially increases the total number.

So, there is no evidence there were more votes than registered voters except one or two votes in scattered (usually very small) precincts.
 
Flash said:
#2: Does not apply. Those claiming voter fraud said more people voted than the number of registered voters in some areas. This study does is not about more votes than registered voters.

This Judicial Watch study said there were more registered voters than the number of eligible voters. The number of eligible voters is determined by five-year population estimates by the Census Bureau.

These are just estimates and numbers can change substantially in a five-year period; for example, Texas gains about 374,000 people per year. The Census Bureau has to estimate how many of these people are eligible voters and 1.8 million in five years substantially increases the total number.

So, there is no evidence there were more votes than registered voters except one or two votes in scattered (usually very small) precincts.
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“The new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters in 353 counties across 29 states,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”
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China Joe said:
.“The new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters in 353 counties across 29 states,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”
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There were no ghost voters unless you accept the premise of the study that the number of registered voters outnumbered the number of eligible votes. This does take into account population changes or mobility. Millions of people have relocated since the pandemic began.

Assume 700,000 of those 1.8 million people who move to Texas within a five-year period are eligible voters. That makes 700,000 ghost voters in Texas because they will not be included in the number of eligible voters until the next five-year projection. And these are only estimates and not an actual count of eligible voters.

Looking at the study more carefully, it does not use eligible voters but voting age population which means many of those people are not eligible to vote. They may be felons, legal non-citizens, illegal aliens.

"The bottom line is that experts we consulted stated that the comparison between CVAP figures and voter registration figures do not prove the existence of “ghost voters” in counties. Rather, the two datasets make for problematic comparisons because of the differences in the time frame they were taken, the differing purposes of each set of data, and the method by which they are collected."

This study has been attacked due to poor methodology.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ghost-voters-in-29-states/

https://apnews.com/article/8437750124

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/report-prompts-false-claims-of-voter-fraud-in-iowa/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...inds-new-opponent-pro-voter-id-iowa-official/

The point is that it does not prove more people voting than registered voters. Show me a county (or any jurisdiction) that had more voters than the number of registered voters. The number of estimated voting age population does not do that.
 
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Your mother wears army boots!!
 
China Joe said:
Any other premise would be unreasonable.
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Not if the number of voting age population (VAP) is not accurate and up to five years outdated during which millions may have entered that state and increased the VAP. In such a case the VAP is not current but the number of registered voters (supplied by the states) has been updated to increase the number of registered voters.

And, since the number of votes cast does not exceed the number of registered voters (over 60% is high) it doesn't really matter if the number of registered voters exceed the VAP. Many of those people would have turned 18 during a 5-year period which would not have been included in the VAP.
 
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Flash said:
#2: Does not apply. Those claiming voter fraud said more people voted than the number of registered voters in some areas. This study does is not about more votes than registered voters.

This Judicial Watch study said there were more registered voters than the number of eligible voters. The number of eligible voters is determined by five-year population estimates by the Census Bureau.

These are just estimates and numbers can change substantially in a five-year period; for example, Texas gains about 374,000 people per year. The Census Bureau has to estimate how many of these people are eligible voters and 1.8 million in five years substantially increases the total number.

So, there is no evidence there were more votes than registered voters except one or two votes in scattered (usually very small) precincts.
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1960 was a stolen election, so, winning Ohio and Florida still applied into 2020.
 
Winston Smith said:
I'm thinking more like 1884. Cleveland won the election by carrying NY at the height of Tammany Hall's power.
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Those days were very different than after the Progressive Reforms. The parties ran the elections, colored ballots were used to identify how people voted, there was no voter registration in many areas, elections were held in saloons.....

People should work at the polls to see how they really operate before believing unfounded assumptions they saw on social media or heard from their political leader(s) or right-wing or left-wing sources.
 
China Joe said:
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breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/20/most-voters-consider-joe-biden-puppet-radical-left/

More than 1/4 of Democrat Voters agree with me on this issue. Joe Bite-n is a fucking puppet, nothing more. And every one of you pitiful JPP libs voted for this.

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I wish he was, but sadly he is not. We are not getting student loan relief and families are still being locked up at the border.
 
Flash said:
Those days were very different than after the Progressive Reforms. The parties ran the elections, colored ballots were used to identify how people voted, there was no voter registration in many areas, elections were held in saloons.....

People should work at the polls to see how they really operate before believing unfounded assumptions they saw on social media or heard from their political leader(s) or right-wing or left-wing sources.
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Not really. Cheating in elections is still a time-honored tradition for Dems. Even in 1964, the most decisive presidential election of modern times, they couldn't have helped themselves.
 
Winston Smith said:
Not really. Cheating in elections is still a time-honored tradition for Dems. Even in 1964, the most decisive presidential election of modern times, they couldn't have helped themselves.
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Blinded by partisanship thinking one party cheats more than the other or that elections are not much more secure today. In 2018 the only election that was overturned due to cheating was a Republican House race in N.C.

Trump lost---quit denying reality. Blaming cheating for losing the election, blaming Antifa and BLM for the attack on the Capitol, all made-up by the puppet masters.
 
Flash said:
Blinded by partisanship thinking one party cheats more than the other or that elections are not much more secure today. In 2018 the only election that was overturned due to cheating was a Republican House race in N.C.

Trump lost---quit denying reality. Blaming cheating for losing the election, blaming Antifa and BLM for the attack on the Capitol, all made-up by the puppet masters.
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I think it's a specific mark on the Democratic Party. Obviously, that they have only swung a couple of presidential elections since 1828 means it hasn't effected national contests much. The biggest impact had been on nomination processes and municipal elections.

I said nothing about the Capitol riot. Personally, I wish many more rioters would have been shot.
 
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