EcoLeftist Democrats Create Black Market in Dishwasher Detergent

[KingCondanomation]

Making honest regular people into criminals. And WORSE there is a bill proposed that would do this nationwide. Fight back against the Liberal Democrats and email congress.

"SPOKANE, Wash. – The quest for squeaky-clean dishes has turned some law-abiding people in Spokane into dishwater-detergent smugglers. They are bringing Cascade or Electrasol in from out of state because the eco-friendly varieties required under Washington state law don't work as well. Spokane County became the launch pad last July for the nation's strictest ban on dishwasher detergent made with phosphates, a measure aimed at reducing water pollution. The ban will be expanded statewide in July 2010, the same time similar laws take effect in several other states.

But it's not easy to get sparkling dishes when you go green.

Many people were shocked to find that products like Seventh Generation, Ecover and Trader Joe's left their dishes encrusted with food, smeared with grease and too gross to use without rewashing them by hand. The culprit was hard water, which is mineral-rich and resistant to soap.

As a result, there has been a quiet rush of Spokane-area shoppers heading east on Interstate 90 into Idaho in search of old-school suds.

Real estate agent Patti Marcotte of Spokane stocks up on detergent at a Costco in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, and doesn't care who knows it.

"Yes, I am a smuggler," she said. "I'm taking my chances because dirty dishes I cannot live with."

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Among other states that have banned or are banning phosphates in dishwasher detergent are Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan, Vermont, Minnesota, Illinois, Massachusetts and New York. A bill on Capitol Hill would impose a nationwide ban. "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090328/ap_on_re_us/bootleg_detergent

 

[ib1yysguy]

I'm sure it's hard to come by pesticides that make babies grow a third arm too. That's not a bad thing, that's a perfect example of government doing a good job to protect people from the failure of the markets to regulate themselves adequately.

 

[KingCondanomation]

I'm sure it's hard to come by pesticides that make babies grow a third arm too. That's not a bad thing, that's a perfect example of government doing a good job to protect people from the failure of the markets to regulate themselves adequately.

Why would anyone buy pestcides that do that ONCE they know its effects? No one would. After pesticides were discovered to do this (if indeed any were), did anyone go out of state to buy them?
There is never a need for a ban as people will stop buying dangerous products, in this case phosphates are not considered bad to most people enough to stop using them.

Stop creating more criminals and restricting yet more freedom in the name of saving the world from bullshit hobgoblins.

 

[uscitizen]

OMFG! Dishwashing detergent smugglers! What is the world coming to?
Damned liberals!

 

[ib1yysguy]

Why would anyone buy pestcides that do that ONCE they know its effects? No one would. After pesticides were discovered to do this (if indeed any were), did anyone go out of state to buy them?
There is never a need for a ban as people will stop buying dangerous products, in this case phosphates are not considered bad to most people enough to stop using them.

Stop creating more criminals and restricting yet more freedom in the name of saving the world from bullshit hobgoblins.

Not only that, but Tom Delay in fact went into politics because he was pissed that the pesticides he was using that gave babies third legs weren't allowed anymore despite the fact that they were better at killing insects.

More effective pesticides are hazardous and are banned. More effective dishwashing detergent was shown to be hazardous to the environment so it was also banned because of the chemicals it included.

You're making a very good case for regulation!

 

[SmarterthanYou]

This is really from the Onion, right? I mean, there's no possible way that a city would actually deign to stoop this fucking low in regulating like a babysitter? Please tell me this is all a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Bonestorm]

This is really from the Onion, right? I mean, there's no possible way that a city would actually deign to stoop this fucking low in regulating like a babysitter? Please tell me this is all a bunch of bullshit.

Characterizing environmental protection laws as nanny state bullshit is a new one on me.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Characterizing environmental protection laws as nanny state bullshit is a new one on me.

I'm not surprised, but Spokane should have really taken a page from the Chicago attempt at regulating it's citizens lifestyles and realized this was NOT going to work. I'm guessing that alot of these city council members lose their seats next election.

 

[Bonestorm]

I'm not surprised, but Spokane should have really taken a page from the Chicago attempt at regulating it's citizens lifestyles and realized this was NOT going to work. I'm guessing that alot of these city council members lose their seats next election.

I really don't see how this is regulating anyone's lifestyle. It a bill to prevent water pollution. If these fucking crybabies can't take the rime to rinse their fucking dishes before putting them in the dishwasher then fuck 'em. Why should the people of Washington state deal with water pollution because some ignorant shits can't be bothered to take a few minutes to prevent deterioration of the environment.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Why would anyone buy pestcides that do that ONCE they know its effects? No one would. After pesticides were discovered to do this (if indeed any were), did anyone go out of state to buy them?

If you were a business and it worked really really well, you wouldn't even think twice. The market has no morals.

 

[tinfoil]

I'm sure it's hard to come by pesticides that make babies grow a third arm too. That's not a bad thing, that's a perfect example of government doing a good job to protect people from the failure of the markets to regulate themselves adequately.

straight to hyperbole! what a predictable moron!

 

[tinfoil]

I really don't see how this is regulating anyone's lifestyle.

you're an idiot

 

[Bonestorm]

you're an idiot

Thank you.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

you're an idiot

Whatever you tax-cheat.

 

[charver]

When little Kofi heard about the plight of the hard-pressed citizens of Washington state, having to resort to the barbaric practice of washing their own dirty dishes by hand, he was so traumatised and overcome with grief he vowed, that as soon as he'd returned from the fifteen mile trek to collect the family's water for the day, he would refuse to wash the family plate for one week in a show of international solidarity.

 

[KingCondanomation]

When little Kofi heard about the plight of the hard-pressed citizens of Washington state, having to resort to the barbaric practice of washing their own dirty dishes by hand, he was so traumatised and overcome with grief he vowed, that as soon as he'd returned from the fifteen mile trek to collect the family's water for the day, he would refuse to wash the family plate for one week in a show of international solidarity.

Little Kofi wants to come to America like billions do for more freedom and oppurtunity, I'm helping defend that.
And yes I know you are thinking if he did move here he wouldn't consider that that bad, not in comparison anyway, but one of the key points of a better life is being able to afford and use machines that free up your time for other pursuits, often other wealth creation.
This just takes us backwards, nor does it work anyway, people become criminals to smuggle the shit and skirt around the law anyway. That's terrible that Liberals have created yet more criminals.

 

[charver]

Little Kofi wants to come to America like billions do for more freedom and oppurtunity, I'm helping defend that.
And yes I know you are thinking if he did move here he wouldn't consider that that bad, not in comparison anyway, but one of the key points of a better life is being able to afford and use machines that free up your time for other pursuits, often other wealth creation.
This just takes us backwards, nor does it work anyway, people become criminals to smuggle the shit and skirt around the law anyway. That's terrible that Liberals have created yet more criminals.

Better life = a dishwasher

So in the valuable time you save not doing the dishes you're out "creating wealth"? Obviously this is where Africa has been going wrong all these years.

 

[Bonestorm]

Little Kofi wants to come to America like billions do for more freedom and oppurtunity, I'm helping defend that.
And yes I know you are thinking if he did move here he wouldn't consider that that bad, not in comparison anyway, but one of the key points of a better life is being able to afford and use machines that free up your time for other pursuits, often other wealth creation.
This just takes us backwards, nor does it work anyway, people become criminals to smuggle the shit and skirt around the law anyway. That's terrible that Liberals have created yet more criminals.

Ugh. It's not even possible to make fun of you and your hackneyed bullshit. You have transcended satire. I'm beginning the think that you are really just a spoof.

I can see the rally signs now: IF DISHWATER DETERGENT CONTAINING PHOSPHATES ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE DISHWASHER DETERGENT CONTAINING PHOSPHATES.

 

[KingCondanomation]

Better life = a dishwasher

So in the valuable time you save not doing the dishes you're out "creating wealth"? Obviously this is where Africa has been going wrong all these years.

Try backing up a few steps.
When a poor village in Africa or say a village in America a hundred or 2 hundred years ago, has access to water pump in their village, that means they don't have to walk as far to get it, which means they have more free time for farming and to improve their life and yes wealth further.
Eventually as life improves, more improvements are sought including using machines when the value given from them is deemed worthwhile and affordable and they can improve their life even further.

I think you're smart enough to know this, you are just stuck in that lefty cynical mode of defending any regulations as not a big deal because there are worse situations. I urge you not to do that because you could lose an awful lot of freedom if your benchmark is comparing life to the hardest lives in the world.

 

[Bonestorm]

Try backing up a few steps.
When a poor village in Africa or say a village in America a hundred or 2 hundred years ago, has access to water pump in their village, that means they don't have to walk as far to get it, which means they have more free time for farming and to improve their life and yes wealth further.
Eventually as life improves, more improvements are sought including using machines when the value given from them is deemed worthwhile and affordable and they can improve their life even further.

I think you're smart enough to know this, you are just stuck in that lefty cynical mode of defending any regulations as not a big deal because there are worse situations. I urge you not to do that because you could lose an awful lot of freedom if your benchmark is comparing life to the hardest lives in the world.

I guess what you fail to appreciate is the harm to the environment caused by phosphates in waste water. There is no such thing as the freedom to pollute waterways.