Charles Blow: We Need A Second Great Migration

Sailor said:
Once again, a sure sign a Democrat is caught. At least you gave up the faggy ass emoticons. For now anyway.
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Still can't engage in a discussion about 'race' without personal attacks and insults? It's your TradeMark, Sailor. :(
 
Jack said:
Typical Red Team antics. Sailor is right up there with Truth Detector.
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Poor Jack. You make a racist comment (not your first by a long shot) and you try to turn this on me. Typical racist Democrat tactic. Never works.
 
archives said:
Which brings us back to the theme post, unusual, usually be post twenty something the insults and personal attacks dominate while the intial content is long lost
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Blow's 'theme' echoes the opinion of Farrakhan and Duke. They've never been given much time to air their 'views' because, as we all know, they are 'Racists' and we can't listen the THEM. But, now that 'clean and articulate' Charles Blow has published this, maybe it's time to discuss the merits?
 
Jack said:
Blow's 'theme' echoes the opinion of Farrakhan and Duke. They've never been given much time to air their 'views' because, as we all know, they are 'Racists' and we can't listen the THEM. But, now that 'clean and articulate' Charles Blow has published this, maybe it's time to discuss the merits?
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Not exactly, those individuals were interested in completely separate entities, Blow is taking about harnessing the potential of a organized black vote implying migration to the south would increase its capabilities
 
archives said:
Not exactly, those individuals were interested in completely separate entities, Blow is taking about harnessing the potential of a organized black vote implying migration to the south would increase its capabilities
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For fun let me ask you this. You're fond of saying people leave NYC because they can't hack it (and there's an element of truth in that). Would that apply here or would a pass be given?
 
archives said:
Not exactly, those individuals were interested in completely separate entities, Blow is taking about harnessing the potential of a organized black vote implying migration to the south would increase its capabilities
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Yeah. It seems based on 'race', rather than 'shared values'. So, if this is something Blacks would be interested in, maybe a 'Racial Reservation' for Blacks, Whites, etc. should be discussed and see how many would support and actually desire an 'Ethno-State'.
 
cawacko said:
For fun let me ask you this. You're fond of saying people leave NYC because they can't hack it (and there's an element of truth in that). Would that apply here or would a pass be given?
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I would say 'sure'. It's an 'experiment' carried out by people supporting 'racial grouping'. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
 
cawacko said:
Interesting column from Charles Blow (a progressive black writer for the NY Times). It's really long so I just posted the link. Basic premise is black people in Northern Cities should move back to the South where they will have large numbers and be able to have far more political power.

People of all stripes have been moving to the South for years because of jobs, affordable housing and lower cost of living. I question the idea that black power and advancement comes from having more black politicians but it's a big part of what's being argued here.

(I did include one portion of the column below where he responds to the question of isn't the South more racist than the North. His answer is that its not.)






We Need a Second Great Migration

Georgia illuminates the path to Black power. It lies in the South. Follow me there.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/opinion/georgia-black-political-power.html?smid=tw-share




Others have objected: Isn’t the North just better for Black people than the South?

Many Black people are leery of the South, if not afraid of it. They still have in their minds a retrograde South: dirty and dusty, overgrown and underdeveloped, a third-world region in a first-world country. They see a region that is unenlightened and repressive, overrun by religious zealots and open racists. The caricatures have calcified: hillbillies and banjos, Confederate flags and the Ku Klux Klan.

To be sure, all of that is here. But racism is more evenly distributed across the country than we are willing to admit.

It is true that in surveys, people in the North express support for fewer racially biased ideas than those in the South, but such surveys reveal only which biases people confess to, not the ones they subconsciously possess. So I asked the researchers at Project Implicit to run an analysis of their massive data set to see if there were regional differences in pro-white or anti-Black prejudice. The result, which one of the researchers described as “slightly surprising,” was that there was almost no difference in the level of bias between white people in the South and those in the Northeast or Midwest. (The bias of white people in the West was slightly lower.)

White people outside the South are more likely to say the right words, but many possess the same bigotry. Racism is everywhere. And if that’s the case, wouldn’t you rather have some real political power to address that racism? And a yard!

For decades Northern liberals have maintained the illusion of their moral superiority to justify their lack of progress in terms of racial equality. The North’s arrogant insistence that it had no race problem, or at least a minimal one, allowed a racialized police militarism to take root. It allowed housing and education segregation to flourish in supposedly “diverse” cities. It allowed for the rise of Black ghettos and concentrated poverty as well as white flight and urban disinvestment.

The supposed egalitarianism of Northern cities is a flimsy disguise for a white supremacy that diverges from its Southern counterpart only in style, not substance.

And, while the North has been stuck in its self-righteous stasis, the savagery of the South has in some ways softened, or morphed. I am careful not to position this progress as fully redemptive or restorative. White supremacy clearly still exists here, corrupting everything from criminal justice to electoral access. The “New South” — with its thriving Black middle class and increasing political power — is still more aspiration than reality.

But the wishful idealizing of a New South is no more naïve than a willful blindness to the transgressions of the Now North. As the author Jesmyn Ward wrote in 2018 in Time about her decision to leave Stanford and move back to Mississippi, American racism is an “infinite room”: “It is the bedrock beneath the soil. Racial violence and subjugation happen on the streets of St. Louis, on the sidewalks of New York City and in the BART stations of Oakland.”

Black people have traversed this country in search of a place where the hand of oppression was lightest and the spirit of prosperity was greatest, but have had to learn a bitter lesson: Racism is everywhere.
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so. resegregation? you guys are idiotic busybodies. quit "planning" your dumb shit and just be actually antifascist.
 
cawacko said:
For fun let me ask you this. You're fond of saying people leave NYC because they can't hack it (and there's an element of truth in that). Would that apply here or would a pass be given?
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The can't hack it reference comes from the Sinatra song, always added for humor, exaggerated, but has a small degree of validity. And if applied here, sure, why not, unless their motivation was what Blow is recommending

Interesting phenomena about New York which only a native New Yorker would see is that a large segment of those exiting either return in some capacity, as per say snowbirds, or, often have a feeling that they are missing something since they departed.
 
AssHatZombie said:
so. resegregation? you guys are idiotic busybodies. quit "planning" your dumb shit and just be actually antifascist.
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Most Americans 'live together' and have no desire to live in an 'Ethno-State'. But there have been calls from racial groups for 'separation' and to 'marry within the Community'. I don't know what the numbers are. But since Charles Blow is bringing up 'Political Power through Racial Majority', maybe it's time to put the Question out there and see how popular it is?

Let's face it, some people can't seem to live together.
 
Jack said:
Yeah. It seems based on 'race', rather than 'shared values'. So, if this is something Blacks would be interested in, maybe a 'Racial Reservation' for Blacks, Whites, etc. should be discussed and see how many would support and actually desire an 'Ethno-State'.
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No one wants a "reservation," why should they, they are just as American as anyone else, rather the aim is gaining political power by becoming a recognized civic entity just as say a Teacher's Union
 
Jack said:
Most Americans 'live together' and have no desire to live in an 'Ethno-State'. But there have been calls from racial groups for 'separation' and to 'marry within the Community'. I don't know what the numbers are. But since Charles Blow is bringing up 'Political Power through Racial Majority', maybe it's time to put the Question out there and see how popular it is?

Let's face it, some people can't seem to live together.
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it's fucking stupid.
it's literally resegration and a regressive return to racial animus.

it's a banker devised divide and conquer strategy. this stupidity should be roundly rejected.
 
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