Texas sues Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania over election fraud

Into the Night said:
It is not challenging the election laws of any State. It does have a dispute which is the basis for bringing the lawsuit in the Supreme Court. See Articles II and III.
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It is not a dispute Texas has standing to challenge. It will be dismissed and should be.
 
Into the Night said:
WRONG. The US Constitution says State legislatures and ONLY State legislatures can determine the electors. They may use ANY method they wish to do so, including simply choosing the electors themselves. Since the election has faulted in these four States, their only choice now is for the legislatures to act, or abstain and lose their electoral votes. That is what both the Trump suit and the Texas suit are going to force. These legislatures MUST act, or risk losing their electors completely.
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:nuke:

Nicely done. :thup:
 
Flash said:
They have no standing to challenge the election laws of other states.
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The way I understand it, they're not challenging those laws. Apparently those states did not follow their own laws rendering the results invalid.
 
archives said:
Definitively no, but with yesterday being Harbor Day and Trump losing in all of his legal challenges, the writing is on the wall, only a bitter self serving individual would break from Presidential tradition and still deny the obvious

Or as Trump himself put it in 2016 regarding Jill Stein's lawsuits, “This is a scam, and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what Jill Stein is doing to fill her coffers with money, most of which she will never even spend on this ridiculous recount"
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That was a scam, this is NOT. :dunno:
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ruling on that is the last thing SCOTUS wants to do....I expect them to find a door out.
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They will. They never reverse election results. Buddy of mine that grew up in Hunting Beach CA told me of a local election where election fraud was undisputedly proven and they still didn't overturn it.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Do you need someone to read it to you?

I was able to do a simple search and found the word "expert" is only there twice. Both times in the paragraph about signatures.

But I wonder if you know anything about statistical sampling. The number of ballots was enough to be a good statistical sample and with zero signatures that showed signs of fraud it would mean the likelihood of finding 1% or more fraudulent signatures is highly unlikely. The court says this:
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Well, could you just post the actual signature check, data here for all to see?
 
anonymoose said:
The way I understand it, they're not challenging those laws. Apparently those states did not follow their own laws rendering the results invalid.
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Texas (or any other state) have no standing to challenge whether a state followed its own laws. That is an issue for each state to decide.

In PA the PA Supreme Court and U. S. Supreme Court both upheld the changes executive orders made due to circumstances making it difficult to follow the laws.
 
Flash said:
Texas (or any other state) have no standing to challenge whether a state followed its own laws. That is an issue for each state to decide.

In PA the PA Supreme Court and U. S. Supreme Court both upheld the changes executive orders made due to circumstances making it difficult to follow the laws.
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All these other 'failed" cases and appeals are part of a normal process for these highly politicized cases. You've seen it a dozen times before.

Those cases were mostly all rejected on the basis that they would not effect the election result.

Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
The US Constitution says State legislatures and ONLY State legislatures can determine the electors. They may use ANY method they wish to do so, including simply choosing the electors themselves. Since the election has faulted in these four States, their only choice now is for the legislatures to act, or abstain and lose their electoral votes. That is what both the Trump suit and the Texas suit are going to force. These legislatures MUST act, or risk losing their electors completely.
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Bigdog said:
All these other 'failed" cases and appeals are part of a normal process for these highly politicized cases. You've seen it a dozen times before.

Those cases were mostly all rejected on the basis that they would not effect the election result.
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If they wouldn't affect the election results that made it a big waste of time.

They also failed to present any evidence of fraud. Read that crazy lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell and she rambles on about Hugh Chavez.
 
Flash said:
Texas (or any other state) have no standing to challenge whether a state followed its own laws. That is an issue for each state to decide.

In PA the PA Supreme Court and U. S. Supreme Court both upheld the changes executive orders made due to circumstances making it difficult to follow the laws.
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That will be the SC's way out. They will not overturn an election.
 
Bigdog said:
"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to block the battleground states from casting "unlawful and constitutionally tainted votes" in the Electoral College.

BY EMMA PLATOFF DEC. 8, 2020

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/texas-ken-paxton-election-georgia/
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You tRump ass kissers at circling the toilet bowel after tRump lost 50 court cases over his frivolous and bs lawsuits, SCOTUS already b!tch slapping tRump and his sewer goons' effort to disenfranchise Pennsylvania and for the fact that I do not believe SCOTUS is interested in being polluted with the lawlessness, sedition and treason of the tRump sewer mob, and will give them all a final blow at SCOTUS rejecting this un American and un Constitutional atrocity. This includes the head spineless lunatic Ted Cruz so-called arguing the criminal Paxton's effort to destroy the legitimacy of the 2020 election: No, the U.S. Supreme Court Has Not Agreed to Hear Texas’ Lawsuit Challenging Swing State Election Results https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...uit-challenging-swing-state-election-results/

Paxton, some credible so-called attorney general who is under indictment as a current un convicted felon, which is probably why he set himself up for additional sanctions at mocking Supreme Court justice to join in a treasonous effort to destroy Democracy from within, and in order for his stinking hide to avoid prison. https://www.texastribune.org/2019/0...l-case-timeline-texas-attorney-general-fraud/
 
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Flash said:
If they wouldn't affect the election results that made it a big waste of time.

They also failed to present any evidence of fraud. Read that crazy lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell and she rambles on about Hugh Chavez.
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There are plenty of sworn affidavits from whistleblowers. But that is not the key issue before the court.

Not a waste of time, just part of the normal court process. You've witnessed this process before in high profile Constitutional cases.
 
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gemini104104 said:
You tRump ass kissers at circling the toilet bowel after tRump lost 50 court cases over his frivolous and bs lawsuits, SCOTUS already b!tch slapping tRump and his sewer goons' effort to disenfranchise Pennsylvania and for the fact that I do not believe SCOTUS is interested in being polluted with the lawlessness, sedition and treason of the tRump sewer mob, and will give them all a final blow if SCOTUS rejects this un American and un Constitutional atrocity. This includes the head spineless lunatic Ted Cruz so-called arguing the criminal Paxton's effort to destroy the legitimacy of the 2020 election: No, the U.S. Supreme Court Has Not Agreed to Hear Texas’ Lawsuit Challenging Swing State Election Results https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...uit-challenging-swing-state-election-results/
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Because one State is not enough to change the election result. This multi state case could Decide the election.

BTW, 18 States have now joined Texas in the suit against the four.
 
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anonymoose said:
That will be the SC's way out. They will not overturn an election.
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They don't need a way out. There is no evidence or any other reason to overturn the election. The lawsuits got little consideration and none were even resulted in a trial. It was to appeal to the conspiracy theory trial.
 
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