Venezuala's economy ranks 62nd

Venezuela was removed from the Dow Jones world index because of Chavez stealing international investors money.
LOL, BAC will defend the third world thug/dictator on that too I guess.
 
Topspin said:
your fucking retarde bac, and a programer right.
God a fucking third world country and your arguing it's economy is better than the greatest the one that's twice as big as anyone's.
Comical,
you just set the socialist cause back another 100 yrs
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Dude, find where I said Venezuela is greater than the US in any category.

Your getting desperate .. can't find a real argument .. you already ran away once .. whatcha' gonna do now?

FIND WHERE I SAID VENEZUELA IS GREATER THAN THE US IN ANY CATEGORY

We're nationalizing banks and nationalized healthcare is coming .. how many years did you say socialism was set back?

:cof1:

Ahh, the beauty ...
 
blackascoal said:
Au contaire mon ami .. :)

"This was being discussed, same subject, in another thread. Our friend Topper chose to run away from that thread, where his points were getting beaten the fuck up, to start this thread to scream that Venezuela ranks 62nd as if that itself is the point."

Listen BAC... enough of your bullshit.... I was addressing THIS thread, THIS topic... if you are having another discussion elsewhere, then FINE... I could care less. But THIS thread addresses THIS point. The one YOU continue to duck and run from.

"Now you want to invite me out of this thread so you and Top can continue to post bullshit unencumbered by facts, truth, and even common sense. Ain't happening sir. I guess you'll just have to run away and create another thread .. and wait until I show up."

More of your bullshit. I posted a link to Wiki, just like you did that supports the same data source YOU used. So continue with your bullshit elsewhere. He compared the US to Venezuela. You compared Venezuela to Israel and Mexico. I provided data to show you that Venezuela is doing worse than Israel, which is evidence AGAINST your assertation.

"I've already very clearly demonstrated that Venezuelans are faring better than many others throughout Latin America .. so much so that they can afford to express their good fortune through aid to others."

LMAO... right... you were trying to change the topic to compare Venezuela to other Latin American countries. Which was NOT the points that were being made. You continue to duck what we discussed by attempting to change the topic. You want to point to 'successes' of Venezuela while ignoring the fact that they are not doing as well as you pretend they are.

:)
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AS for the remainder of your post, that again doesn't change the fact that while they may have improved, there are still over 60 countries that do BETTER than they are CURRENTLY. SIXTY.

Address that BAC.
 
This is your boy Chavez
According to the United Nations, 32% of Venezuelans lack adequate sanitation, primarily those living in rural areas.[36] Diseases ranging from typhoid, yellow fever, cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and hepatitis D are present in the country.[37] Only 3% of sewage is treated; most major cities lack treatment facilities.[38] Seventeen percent of Venezuelans lack access to drinking water.[39]
 
he's touting percentage gains from utter poverty
many don't have drinking water or proper sanitation. That's fucking comical.
 
Superfreak said:
AS for the remainder of your post, that again doesn't change the fact that while they may have improved, there are still over 60 countries that do BETTER than they are CURRENTLY. SIXTY.

Address that BAC.
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Your problem is that you don't know how to debate very well. You're a good guy and everything .. but your debate skills are lacking. I don't whine about what's presented, I simply debate it.

Every point I made is germaine to the topic .. you just don't want to hear it brother.

There are 60 countries ahead of Venezuela .. but there are 135 countries behind them.

Oh .. not germaine to the topic?

How about asking how many countries were in front of them 5 or 10 years ago.

I know .. not germaine .. in bizarro world.

A historical and by-region perspective of the exact same issue you're talking about is somehow "off-topic" to you. You not only didn't have a clue about those perspectives or what it would reveal, you don't even believe they're relevant.

Amazing
 
Your bragging about a third world socialist dictator that can't provide sanitation or drinking water on a political board about US politics as if his way is better.
YOUR ASS HAS BEEN BURNED, take it like a man and move on.
 
He is also pretending that countries surrounding Venezuela are on automatic equal footing despite the fact that Venezuela is blessed with some of the best reserves of oil in the world. In the Latin world, only Mexico can compete with that abundance of reserves, and yet, as SF pointed out, Argentina and Chile are beating Venezuela (most likely through manufacturing and industry, which are not gimmes like oil is).

But we're ignorant for not being socialists... One day we have a baptism of blood by killing everyone over to the socialist way of thinking though, so its all good.
 
well even if they are the best third world country out there, Fuck $12,000 a year per capita. Fuck that, I wouldn't brag about anything they do.
Europe's standard of living is 3x that and is still below what I'd cope with. Most of them don't have air conditioning in their houses.
 
By the way, NONE of you intellectual warriors have addresssed the data I posted about the historical and by-region perspectives on Venezuelan economy.

NONE of you.

Why would that be, he wonders. :)
 
BAC I love your leftist ways. I'm prob left of you even.
but you are embarrassing yourself. Your a programer who's read a few economic headlines and your pitching softballs to Barry Bonds and A-rod.
You don't know per capita from nominal.
Isreal's typical family earns more than twice those of your beloved thug/dictator in Venezuala.
Why don't they have drinking water? LOFL
 
Topspin said:
Europe's standard of living is 3x that and is still below what I'd cope with. Most of them don't have air conditioning in their houses.
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No air conditioning and, probably due to the prevailing conditions of famine and endemic disease on our little continent, our poor European waistlines are 3 times smaller than yours as well.

The shame is something i have trouble coming to terms with.
 
blackascoal said:
Your problem is that you don't know how to debate very well. You're a good guy and everything .. but your debate skills are lacking. I don't whine about what's presented, I simply debate it.

Every point I made is germaine to the topic .. you just don't want to hear it brother.

There are 60 countries ahead of Venezuela .. but there are 135 countries behind them.

Oh .. not germaine to the topic?

How about asking how many countries were in front of them 5 or 10 years ago.

I know .. not germaine .. in bizarro world.

A historical and by-region perspective of the exact same issue you're talking about is somehow "off-topic" to you. You not only didn't have a clue about those perspectives or what it would reveal, you don't even believe they're relevant.

Amazing
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Again BAC... you are trying to change the subject. You are trying to say... hey they were worse off ten years ago before Chavez... fine. The point I was making is in refuting your assertation that Venezuela was currently better than Israel and then again refuting that it was better than Mexico. I then pointed out to you that they are not the best even within their region as Chile, Argentina and Mexico are all ahead of them. Because that was another of your points.

As for debating skills.... you should take a moment and read back through this thread.

I addressed the topic. Then I addressed your points... which in turn led you to continue to change your points over and over again....

You began by mocking top for not providing a link to his data. You then provided a link to data that while related, was not what toppy had said. I corrected you.

You then tried to compare total GDP to Israel. I pointed out why that was comparing apples to oranges as you need to look at that data on a per capita basis to get a direct comparison.

You then addressed cost of living adjustment to the $12k figure toppy quoted. I in turn provided you a link that showed the per capita purchasing power comparisons that did indeed show evidence to tops original post.

Once I provided you with that FACTUAL DATA... you then tried to spin your way out of it by saying... well how does Venezuela compare to Latin America (as well as some, well venezuela gives other countries aid, which has nothing to do with the topic). I then pointed to the data set that shows Mexico, Chile and Argentina are all ahead of Venezuela.

Then you pretend you dont understand my 'point'.... which either means you are ignorant or just being a complete ass. Because the point is not how much has Venezuela improved in percentages, the point was how do they do NOW... TODAY... compared to other countries that you tried to compare them to. Both Mexico and Israel do better. Period. Deal with it.

Quit trying to spin your way out of the original posts by bringing in other side discussions.
 
charver said:
No air conditioning and, probably due to the prevailing conditions of famine and endemic disease on our little continent, our poor European waistlines are 3 times smaller than yours as well.

The shame is something i have trouble coming to terms with.
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I just don't want to tour Europe for fear that my traveling group will get abducted, and the women sold into the sex trade while we men get sold into the torture trade.

Europe = Fucking Dangerous Place!
 
For a south American state 60 isn't out of the ballpark. There are some extremely capitalistic US allies, like Colombia, that don't do any better.
 
BAC is a fine lefty, But he is basically a high school level at economics.
That was funny as shit touting Venz above Isreal. Has he been under a rock, Isreal has some fine companies. Warren Buffet was there on a big investment mission several months ago.
 
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