Republicans have a vested interest in America's economic failure.

Jarod

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The Republicans in congress have rejected the economic recovery plan. They are voting for failure by failing to support the Presidents plan. They want America to fail.

It is dispicable that they are rooting for America's failure in order to support there future political hopes.
 
The Republicans in congress have rejected the economic recovery plan. They are voting for failure by failing to support the Presidents plan. They want America to fail.

It is dispicable that they are rooting for America's failure in order to support there future political hopes.

This is the same as the republicans claim that democrats WANTED us to lose the war in Iraq.

The republicans (for the most part) disagree with the methodology of the recovery plan. And they have some valid complaints.




But to claim that all republicans are rooting for America's failure is just silly.
 
The Republicans in congress have rejected the economic recovery plan. They are voting for failure by failing to support the Presidents plan. They want America to fail.

It is dispicable that they are rooting for America's failure in order to support there future political hopes.

They not only have a vested interest in America's failure, many are openly calling for it. Their strategy is opposition, period.

And guess what? It might work for them just as it worked during Clinton's years. Two years after Clinton was elected, republicans had regained control of congress .. and they may do it again.

The fault lies in the inability of democrats to lead. Centrist politics is for the weak.

Obambi made republicans relevent when they shouldn't be.
 
This is the same as the republicans claim that democrats WANTED us to lose the war in Iraq.

The republicans (for the most part) disagree with the methodology of the recovery plan. And they have some valid complaints.




But to claim that all republicans are rooting for America's failure is just silly.
Well, expect to be called a Bush lover now. It doesn't matter what you say, if it isn't their specific form of generic stereotyping you "love Bush".
 
This is the same as the republicans claim that democrats WANTED us to lose the war in Iraq.

The republicans (for the most part) disagree with the methodology of the recovery plan. And they have some valid complaints.




But to claim that all republicans are rooting for America's failure is just silly.

Claiming that there aren't republicans who believe that failure is their best option is silly.

There are even some republicans who've felt the need to speak against that mindset because they know it exists.
 
Claiming that thre ren't republicans who believe that failure is their best option is silly.

There are even some republicans who've felt the need to speak against that mindset because they know it exists.

I am sure there are republicans that believe failure is their best political option. Just as their were democrats who believed that losing the war in Iraq would be their best political option.



I am just speaking against this same bullshit that happened over the last 8 years. This labelling an entire political party in an inaccurate way in order to make them look despicable.

If you read the initial post and accept it, you would believe that all the republicans want total economic collapse.
 
This is the same as the republicans claim that democrats WANTED us to lose the war in Iraq.

The republicans (for the most part) disagree with the methodology of the recovery plan. And they have some valid complaints.




But to claim that all republicans are rooting for America's failure is just silly.

I know it is the same argument, I guess the Irony in my post was not obvious enough.
 
I wish the Republican Governors and Senators who were against the bailout would give the money back!


My Republica governor activly campaigned FOR the bailout. Viva La Crist!
 
I am sure there are republicans that believe failure is their best political option. Just as their were democrats who believed that losing the war in Iraq would be their best political option.



I am just speaking against this same bullshit that happened over the last 8 years. This labelling an entire political party in an inaccurate way in order to make them look despicable.

If you read the initial post and accept it, you would believe that all the republicans want total economic collapse.

Normally I'd agree with you. I don't spend all my time demonizing republicans while ignoring democratic failures .. however, the fact that not a single republican in the House voted for the stimulus plan suggests strategy. This is not a natural occurance. It suggests a collective and coordinated effort.

There is indeed some truth to a collective effort by republicans foir this plan to fail.
 
Normally I'd agree with you. I don't spend all my time demonizing republicans while ignoring democratic failures .. however, the fact that not a single republican in the House voted for the stimulus plan suggests strategy. This is not a natural occurance. It suggests a collective and coordinated effort.

There is indeed some truth to a collective effort by republicans foir this plan to fail.

While I agree that a unanimous vote by the House Reps suggests a collective effort, it does not translate into a collective effort to see this country fail. They may simply not like this particular plan.
 
While I agree that a unanimous vote by the House Reps suggests a collective effort, it does not translate into a collective effort to see this country fail. They may simply not like this particular plan.

None the less this is the plan, and at this point the country's success is dependent on its success.
 
Normally I'd agree with you. I don't spend all my time demonizing republicans while ignoring democratic failures .. however, the fact that not a single republican in the House voted for the stimulus plan suggests strategy. This is not a natural occurance. It suggests a collective and coordinated effort.

There is indeed some truth to a collective effort by republicans foir this plan to fail.

As said in my initial response, there are some very real complaints from the republicans concerning the contents of the bailout plan.

The fact that their complaints were ignored with a "we won the election" attitude is as bad as the concerted refusal to support it.


In my mind there are two stereotypes of Dem & Repubs.

The Dems are all about the "we want to help you "fix" you life. We will take money from those who have it to do so.

The repubs are all about "its my money and I want to keep it", and it is the fault of the poor that they are poor. Its not my problem.




Now both of these ideas are wrong, imo. And both will lead to ruin. But a combination of the two is the best case scenario. One side working to help and one side working to conserve what people earn.

The partisan politics is our biggest problem.
 
As said in my initial response, there are some very real complaints from the republicans concerning the contents of the bailout plan.

The fact that their complaints were ignored with a "we won the election" attitude is as bad as the concerted refusal to support it.


In my mind there are two stereotypes of Dem & Repubs.

The Dems are all about the "we want to help you "fix" you life. We will take money from those who have it to do so.

The repubs are all about "its my money and I want to keep it", and it is the fault of the poor that they are poor. Its not my problem.




Now both of these ideas are wrong, imo. And both will lead to ruin. But a combination of the two is the best case scenario. One side working to help and one side working to conserve what people earn.

The partisan politics is our biggest problem.


Which particular complaints were met with a "we won the election" attitude?

I would also note that the type of complaints that the Republicans were engaging in were just plain stupid for the most part. Complaining about spending X million or billion or project Y isolation could have been done with pretty much every single line of the bill in isolation. You could single out all sorts of individual line items as "wasteful" and remove them from the bill and what you would end up with is a "stimulus bill" that doesn't do anything.
 
None the less this is the plan, and at this point the country's success is dependent on its success.

It still doesn't translate. Not voting for a plan that you dont like doesn't equate to hoping it fails.

As others have stated, I would imagine there are Reps who do indeed hope it fails, but to translate to the party as a whole it does not.
 
It still doesn't translate. Not voting for a plan that you dont like doesn't equate to hoping it fails.

As others have stated, I would imagine there are Reps who do indeed hope it fails, but to translate to the party as a whole it does not.


Ah, the shoe is on the other foot. Of course, if we were talking about five members of the Oregon legislature and their beer tax I'm sure you'd take such a nuanced position.
 
While I agree that a unanimous vote by the House Reps suggests a collective effort, it does not translate into a collective effort to see this country fail. They may simply not like this particular plan.

If the plan fails, the country fails.

Obambi changed a better plan for a worse one to accomodate republicans with the largest tax cut is American history.

There is more than a little evidence republicans are looking to failure for their success.

"Pat Robertson thinks Barack Obama has plenty of flaws—he accuses him of letting Nancy Pelosi write the stimulus bill, for starters—but he's got no patience for Rush Limbaugh's hope that the new president fails. "That was a terrible thing to say," Robertson tells US News and World Report. "I mean, he's the president of all the country. If he succeeds, the country succeeds. And if he doesn't, it hurts us all. Anybody who would pull against our president is not exactly thinking rationally."
http://www.newser.com/story/51086/robertson-limbaugh-isnt-thinking-rationally.html
 
Ah, the shoe is on the other foot. Of course, if we were talking about five members of the Oregon legislature and their beer tax I'm sure you'd take such a nuanced position.

No dipshit... I never equated the five to the entire democratic party in Oregon.
 
If the plan fails, the country fails.

Obambi changed a better plan for a worse one to accomodate republicans with the largest tax cut is American history.

There is more than a little evidence republicans are looking to failure for their success.

"Pat Robertson thinks Barack Obama has plenty of flaws—he accuses him of letting Nancy Pelosi write the stimulus bill, for starters—but he's got no patience for Rush Limbaugh's hope that the new president fails. "That was a terrible thing to say," Robertson tells US News and World Report. "I mean, he's the president of all the country. If he succeeds, the country succeeds. And if he doesn't, it hurts us all. Anybody who would pull against our president is not exactly thinking rationally."
http://www.newser.com/story/51086/robertson-limbaugh-isnt-thinking-rationally.html

Yes, if the plan fails the country is in a world of hurt.... but again, that doesn't translate. Not liking the bill and not voting for it, does not mean they want it to fail.

As for your quote... your 'evidence' shows a conservative condemning an idiotic conservative nut for being irrational in his 'hope for failure'. So no, it does not show that Republicans are rooting for failure. It shows that there are fringes out there that are and that others within the party are standing up to them.
 
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