NASA - Earth has been in COOLING TREND for last 6,000 years

Apples and oranges.

Anyone who is modestly knowledgeable about the earth sciences is aware we have known for a century that we are in the middle of an inter-glacial cycle. That the periodic precession of the earth's orbital axis operates on a scale of thousands of years. That we are likely headed towards another glacial cycle in a few thousand years.

That long term periodicity does not mask or attenuate the short term buildup and resultant global warming from ongoing and relentless human emissions of GHGs.

Fossil fuels will eventually run out in 100 to 200 years and after many centuries that natural carbon cycle will reach an equilibrium again.

We can worry about an ice age in 2000 years if civilization is still around. What we need to worry about in the next 50 years is the build up of GHGs in the atmosphere that are a result of our activities.
 
Cypress said:
Apples and oranges.

Anyone who is modestly knowledgeable about the earth sciences is aware we have known for a century that we are in the middle of an inter-glacial cycle. That the periodic precession of the earth's orbital axis operates on a scale of thousands of years. That we are likely headed towards another glacial cycle in a few thousand years.

That long term periodicity does not mask or attenuate the short term buildup and resultant global warming from ongoing and relentless human emissions of GHGs.

Fossil fuels will eventually run out in 100 to 200 years and after many centuries that natural carbon cycle will reach an equilibrium again.

We can worry about an ice age in 2000 years if civilization is still around. What we need to worry about in the next 50 years is the build up of GHGs in the atmosphere that are a result of our activities.
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Cite us some predictions climate scientists have made that have come to pass.
NYC under water by 2000? LOL
The oceans will begin to boil? LOL
Come on, man, cite us an example of the power of climate science to make an accurate prediction
 
tinfoil said:
Cite us some predictions climate scientists have made that have come to pass.
NYC under water by 2000? LOL
The oceans will begin to boil? LOL
Come on, man, cite us an example of the power of climate science to make an accurate prediction
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^^ Thought Climate Gate was a real scandal that proved global warming is a hoax. Routinely has cited obscure rightwing blogs as sources of expert scientific information
 
tinfoil said:
Cite us some predictions climate scientists have made that have come to pass.
NYC under water by 2000? LOL
The oceans will begin to boil? LOL
Come on, man, cite us an example of the power of climate science to make an accurate prediction
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Coral reefs dying, oceanic food supply dwindling, habitat disappearing, extended droughts, stronger storms, coastline disappearing, glaciers and ice caps melting.

My goodness. The earth is out there waving it's arms and saying "hey, dummies!" every single day....
 
Cypress said:
Apples and oranges.
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You're just making shit up.

The Milankovitch cycles are unreliable, yet Al Gorians use it to claim we are supposed to be 2 degrees colder than we are now.

Furthermore ...

"
Year Without a Summer - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Year_Without_a_Summer
The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer (also the Poverty Year and Eighteen Hundred and Froze To Death) because of severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1 °F)."

Al Gorians can not predict Volcanic eruptions, meteoric impacts, and Nuclear winters.
 
BartenderElite said:
Coral reefs dying, oceanic food supply dwindling, habitat disappearing, extended droughts, stronger storms, coastline disappearing, glaciers and ice caps melting.

My goodness. The earth is out there waving it's arms and saying "hey, dummies!" every single day....
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You blame it all on CO2. :palm: You and the Dem media cover up all the other causes. Al Gorians are the worst thing to ever happen to the environmental movement.
 
tinfoil said:
Cite the evidence.
https://sioweb.ucsd.edu/labs/coralr...overy-after-coral-bleaching-at-palmyra-atoll/
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You are emotionally invested in climate denial, and angry that the Climate Gate non-scandal blew up in your face

After about the 84th time of catching you trying to pass off rightwing blogs, cherry picked quotes, and non-peer reviewed papers as reputable sources of climate science, it became crystal clear you cannot be trusted and you do not act in good faith.
 
Cypress said:
You are emotionally invested in climate denial, and angry that the Climate Gate non-scandal blew up in your face

After about the 84th time of catching you trying to pass off rightwing blogs, cherry picked quotes, and non-peer reviewed papers as reputable sources of climate science, it became crystal clear you cannot be trusted and you do not act in good faith.
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Scripps is a rightwing blog? LOL
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripps_Institution_of_Oceanography
 
Cypress said:
We can worry about an ice age in 2000 years if civilization is still around. What we need to worry about in the next 50 years is the build up of GHGs in the atmosphere that are a result of our activities.
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You just made up that 2000 year number. WRF? :palm:
 
Cypress said:
Apples and oranges. Anyone who is modestly knowledgeable about the earth sciences is aware we have known for a century that we are in the middle of an inter-glacial cycle.
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Incorrect. Anyone who is even modestly versed in earth sciences knows that glacial cycles is just a theory. It is not science. Science does not speculate about the past.

Leave the science to the scientists and the scientists will gladly leave the scientific illiteracy to you.

Cypress said:
That the periodic precession of the earth's orbital axis operates on a scale of thousands of years.
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Earth's precession does nothing to alter the earth's distance from the sun which is the only factor at play.

Cypress said:
That we are likely headed towards another glacial cycle in a few thousand years.
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According to that theory but it is not likely that the theory is correct. It runs counter to physics (see the preceding point).

Cypress said:
That long term periodicity does not mask or attenuate the short term buildup and resultant global warming from ongoing and relentless human emissions of GHGs.
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Global Warming is just a WACKY Marxist religion based on HATRED and intolerance. The church specifically targets the scientifically illiterate such as you because anyone who paid attention in physics class cannot be fooled by the egregious violations of physics that form the basis of the WACKY religious dogma.

There is no Global Warming. You've been sold a bill of goods ... because you are a gullible Leftist. You have only yourself to blame.

Cypress said:
Fossil fuels will eventually run out in 100 to 200 years
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Fossils don't burn. You have been sold a bill of goods.

The earth produces hydrocarbons in vast quantities deep in the crust/upper mantle where the ingredients and conditions necessary exist for the production of hydrocarbons. As long as there is an earth we will not run out of hydrocarbons.

Have I mentioned that you are a gullible Leftist moron?
 
tinfoil said:
Scripps is a rightwing blog? LOL
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripps_Institution_of_Oceanography
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He used to bang on about that fat poseur Michael Mann and his idiotic Hockey stick, I have the twat on ignore these days! I wonder Trump waited so long to eject the Obama getting rid of the likes of Craig Mclean, an Obama appointee to watch over policy.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/10/30/noaas-chief-scientist-sacked/#more-47221
 
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Here is a paper from that well known right wing blog aka Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics.

Decadal and multidecadal natural variability in European temperature

Abstract
European monthly temperatures undergo strong fluctuations from one year to the other. The variability is controlled by natural processes such as Atlantic cycles, changes in solar activity, volcanic eruptions, unforced internal atmospheric variability, as well as anthropogenic factors. This contribution investigates the role of key natural drivers for European temperature variability, namely the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and solar activity changes. We calculated Pearson correlation coefficients r for AMO, NAO and sunspots compared to monthly temperature data of 39 European countries for the period 1901–2015 in order to search for ‘fingerprints’ of the natural drivers. A cross correlation window of 11 months was chosen for AMO, NAO and of 120 months for SILSO to account for possible time lags or phase shifts. The r coefficients were mapped out across Europe on a monthly basis to document regional and seasonal changes of the correlation strength. The NAO dominates European temperature variability during the winter months, with strongest relationship in February. The AMO modulates temperatures in March to November, with best correlations occurring in summer, but also in April. Regions of strongest AMO and NAO impacts shift across the continent from month to month, forming systematic patterns. Direct correlation of the solar 11-year Schwabe cycle with temperatures was identified only in some countries in certain multidecadal intervals during February, March, June and September. Previous studies have suggested a significant solar influence on the AMO and NAO. It is likely that the greatest impact of solar activity on European temperatures is of a non-linear, indirect nature by way of interaction with Atlantic cycles.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364682620301115
 
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As recently as 2000 to 1000 years ago, spanning the Roman to Medieval Warm Periods, East Antarctica was 5-6°C warmer than it is today. The consequent ice melt resulted in >60 meters higher water levels in East Antarctica’s lakes.

East Antarctica has been rapidly cooling in recent decades, with magnitudes reaching -0.7°C to -2.0°C per decade since the mid-1980s

Recent-East-Antarctica-cooling-0.7-C-per-decade-Obryk-2020.jpg


https://doi.org/10.1029/2019JD032180
 
Bigdog said:
You blame it all on CO2. :palm: You and the Dem media cover up all the other causes. Al Gorians are the worst thing to ever happen to the environmental movement.
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The treehuggers aren't any better. And PETA, well....
 
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