cawacko
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Republicans...
Yeah, you're fucked.
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Good to know, thanks. Is there something in particular we are fucked this time or is this just a general spur on the moment reminder we are going to hell for being evil?
Republicans...
Yeah, you're fucked.
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what a fear monger....
Personally, I do NOT want to see what 'off the cliff' looks like relative to where we are now.
You're sane. Most of your party members can't say the same...surely you have noticed?
Well, good night!
I thought he did a good job with it all. Though he of course fudged a bit as to where this crisis started.
Oh, so Obama spoke and everyone had an orgasm. Got it.
Maybe Matthews got a tingle or two... but no... nothing orgasmic.
does anyone kiss that nasty mouth of yours?
His polling numbers have feel 20 points in just 3 weeks. I don't think the Republicans will have any problems by the time the Dems. get through running the country off the cliff.![]()
Wow. So I still haven't seen Obama's speech (or press conference?) but I've seen the feedback here and on the USC board (which leans conservative) and (probably not surprisingly) there is a large difference in opinion about the effectiveness of his presentation.
I guess ultimately the voters will decide but it really is interesting (and of course nothing new) how people watch the same speech but come away with completely different reactions.
nothing but fearmongering since he took office.
FACT CHECK: Examining Obama's job, pork claims
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer
Tue Feb 10, 4:05 am ET
WASHINGTON – At least Route 31 is a road to somewhere. President Barack Obama had it both ways when he promoted his stimulus plan in Indiana and later at a prime-time news conference. He bragged in Indiana about getting Congress to produce a package with no pork, yet boasted it will do good things for a Hoosier highway and a downtown overpass, just the kind of local projects lawmakers lard into big spending bills...
THE FACTS: There are no "earmarks," as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill. Still, some of the projects bear the prime characteristics of pork — tailored to benefit specific interests or to have thinly disguised links to local projects...
THE FACTS: Job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers...
THE FACTS: The economic stimulus bill would allocate about $20 billion to help hospitals and doctors transition from paper charts to electronic health records for their patients. Research has shown that in some instances, electronic record keeping can eliminate inappropriate services and improve care, but it's not a sure thing by any means. "By itself, the adoption of more health IT is generally not sufficient to produce significant cost savings," the Congressional Budget Office reported last year...
THE FACTS: Two of his appointees, former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle for health and human services secretary and Nancy Killefer as Obama's chief compliance officer, dropped out after reports they had not paid a portion of their taxes.
Obama previously acknowledged he "screwed up" in making it seem to Americans that there is one set of tax compliance rules for VIPs and another set for everyone else. Yet his choice for treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, achieved the post despite having belatedly paid $34,000 to the IRS, an agency Geithner now oversees.
That could leave the perception that there is one set of rules for Geithner and another set for everyone else....
OBAMA: "We also inherited the most profound economic emergency since the Great Depression."
THE FACTS: This could turn out to be the case. But as bad as the economic numbers are, the unemployment figures have not reached the levels of the early 1980s, let alone the 1930s — yet. A total of 598,000 payroll jobs vanished in January — the most in nearly 35 years — and the unemployment rate jumped to 7.6 from 7.2 percent the month before. The most recent high was 7.8 percent in June 1992.
And the jobless rate was 10.8 percent in November and December 1982. Unemployment in the Great Depression ranged for several years from 25 percent to close to 30 percent.
I think I'll start calling him, Obummer. maybe he needs some prozac or something.![]()
Except that was the part he fudged. Technically this whole thing began under pappa Bush... not Clinton.... and it most certainly was due in large part to consumers spending more than they could afford, buying more home than they could afford. That spending bubble burst once the equity bubble burst and the subsequent housing bubble burst.
As I have stated in the past, no question the idiots in DC and on Wall Street certainly played large roles in this debacle as well.... but he was wrong to dismiss the role consumers played.
Hilarious.
This is my favorite reason why (though there are many):
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He took just 13 softball questions and waxed philisophical on the answers taking an avergae of 10 minutes to pontificate with each.
Maybe its you who need medication.
You liked it when Bush strode out in his jeans to "cut some brush" and spew some idiotic crap about how everything is just great and that if you didn't think so then you are a traitor, while the country was getting fucked by the corporations.
Now a man is president who can actually answer questions with concise answers at an adult level and you find it depressing.
Why am I not surprised?