Religious Rights

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Chloe said:
I am no religion either, I obey the law as it stands. But when I was a kid my parents didn't believe in doctors and so I never went. I never had shots or even saw a doctor until I got married and then my husband insisted I get shots and see a doctor. But I just remember that it was real controversial when people found out my parents wouldnt take me to doctors.:cool:
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*treading lightly* How do you feel now that you've had the shots and seen a doctor, about your parents' choices? If for costs, pray tell; if for other reasons, same. Thanks.
 
Honestly I dont really go to doctors now unless I had a serious reason to go for myself. Im divorced so no husband to boss me around about it. However I take my kids they get there shots & doctors appointments if they are sick, Im not religious and its the law. I think that if its the law and I want to live in America I should follow it.
 
Chloe said:
Honestly I dont really go to doctors now unless I had a serious reason to go for myself. Im divorced so no husband to boss me around about it. However I take my kids they get there shots & doctors appointments if they are sick, Im not religious and its the law. I think that if its the law and I want to live in America I should follow it.
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I probably agree with you. In general my take was to have my children inoculated against the normal things. However, I was very wary about anti-biotics and such, unless strep or like, refused. I think the body's immune system can fight most infections. If running temps over 101 for more than 3 days, I'd certainly go along. If my child had seizures, would give anti-seizure meds, same with diabetes or anything like.
 
sometimes there are just as safe alternative medicines, but I still take my kids to the doctor and stuff when they are sick and they have had all there shots too required by law.
 
Chloe said:
sometimes there are just as safe alternative medicines, but I still take my kids to the doctor and stuff when they are sick and they have had all there shots too required by law.
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Agreed. The law now recommends many things I would not go along with, but in general it's for public health and I agree.

With that said, I'm a big proponent of letting nature care for, at least to the point where it becomes impractical, such as dehydration.
 
Chloe said:
Honestly I dont really go to doctors now unless I had a serious reason to go for myself. Im divorced so no husband to boss me around about it. However I take my kids they get there shots & doctors appointments if they are sick, Im not religious and its the law. I think that if its the law and I want to live in America I should follow it.
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You shouldn't have let your husband dictate that stuff anyway. I'd suggest it for my wife and tell her I worry, but I'd never be all, "Go, now. Woman. Now."

I'd be afraid to fall asleep.
 
Thorn said:
Those are not live virus shots; the virus has been killed and yet has enough characteristics to trigger an immune response in the recipient so that the patient then has developed an immunity to that particular virus.
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Not true~in most cases they are weakened not dead virusus!
 
Damocles said:
You shouldn't have let your husband dictate that stuff anyway. I'd suggest it for my wife and tell her I worry, but I'd never be all, "Go, now. Woman. Now."

I'd be afraid to fall asleep.
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That's why you are not an 'ex'. ;)
 
Chloe said:
It used to be legal to opt not to go to doctors or get shots on religious grounds thats why I never had them or saw a doctor until I got married. So then if the government makes it mandatory for a vaccination you dont agree with, or take this medicine or that medicine or else you cant got to public school or maybe you cant work in a public environment, I mean yes school is a public place but so are libraries, jobs, anything outside of your house. It seems like some conservatives say they want less government but have no problem deciding that everyone has to go to a doctor or get vaccinations. Liberals don't seem that liberal if they arent allowing people to make a choice based on religious belief.
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Well if not for the live polio vaccinations alot of kids would be crippeld from the polio virus...which was for the most part wiped out in the US because of mandatory vaccinations in the late 1940's!
 
I see both sides of this discussion.

My father was a pharmacist and my mom was a health food/holistic medicine nut.

I made sure my kids all got the immunizations that they were required to get. But we never got them flu shots or the like.

My current wife is big on meds, dr visits, and all the delights of modern pharmacology. Anyone with an MD after their name knows everything and we should just trust them.

I think we have become far too complacent about what the medical community tells us. we take their word as gospel without doing our own research. This is strange to me, because I remember Mom going to a great deal of trouble to research what the dr told her. And now we have access to the internet where we can get huge amounts of info with very little effort.

I think we have become to quick to pop a pill or get a shot for whatever ails us. The human body is a remarkable engine. It can often heal itself quite well if we just give it what it needs and keep it running well.

Antibiotics, in my opinion, should be given out MUCH more sparingly.

I also think that nutritional treatment and preventative care would be much better than the "wait till we are too sick to work, then get lots of drugs" approach to wellness.
 
Chloe said:
Should the government have a right to force people to get shots, see doctors and have surgery if its against there religion?
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No, to each his own.

They should not be allowed to attend public school, though, if it will endanger other people.
 
Chloe said:
I never had shots as a kid and went to public school, I dont know when the law changed. But Certainly anyone who opted not to have them back then understood there rights & choices and those who had the shots should have been protected according to whatever the shots say they do. So now its a mandatory law regardless of your belief about it.
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If it weren't for vaccinations, there would still be smallpox and polio.

If everyone got vaccinated, maybe we could do away with the other communicable diseases!!!
 
Chloe said:
It used to be legal to opt not to go to doctors or get shots on religious grounds thats why I never had them or saw a doctor until I got married. So then if the government makes it mandatory for a vaccination you dont agree with, or take this medicine or that medicine or else you cant got to public school or maybe you cant work in a public environment, I mean yes school is a public place but so are libraries, jobs, anything outside of your house. It seems like some conservatives say they want less government but have no problem deciding that everyone has to go to a doctor or get vaccinations. Liberals don't seem that liberal if they arent allowing people to make a choice based on religious belief.
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They are allowed to make choices, but, as always, there are consequences for choices, some good, some not so good!
 
Chloe said:
Well as an adult I shouldnt have to get shots or go to the doctor if its not in my belief system to do so. Yet as an adult I go to public places, so what about that?
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It is different when you are an adult.

I get my vaccinations updated regularly, but I do a lot of yard work and I don't want tetnus.

I use to volunteer at the hospital and they required all updated vaccines.

I am now a cancer survivor and my onocologist likes me to be updated.
 
Here's my take, the 'community' should agree that certain diseases with available inoculations are so bad, it's not worth the risk. Now Hib, flu, etc., those are voluntary, I wouldn't have my kids used as lab rats, but that is me.

Measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetnus, or diphtheria? Sorry, IMO only the ignorant would put their kids at risk.
 
Chloe said:
some people who are given a terminal disease sentence turn to alternative holistic healing, or prefer not to have manmade chemicals put in there body so they use alternative natural medicine, or turn to prayer. I dont think anythings wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong with it, but it is not a choice I would make! It seems foolish to me.

My friend refused chemo, cancer came back three times, the third time, it got him! I wish he had done the chemo first time around. People prayed for him, no sign that worked.

I do holistic along with convention medicine! It is a great combination.
 
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