What do Nazi and Confederate Flags have to do with ending the lockdown?

But you don't know, do you? You make an assumption. You toss off any random thought, just like Trump does, then you have to spend all your time either appealing to authority, moving the goalposts, or just ignoring the contradiction in your argument.

If you don't know what the penalties were for violating that so called "mandate", then it wasn't a mandate, was it?

I can call my cat a dog, but it's still a cat.

Aww the illiterate fucking retard doesn't know what the word mandatory means.

"The action means that U.S. citizens who have been in China's Hubei Province in the past 14 days will be subject to 14 days of mandatory quarantine if they travel back to the United States."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c

Deal with it.
 
Where? Where were they placed? Because the AP reports virtually none of them were even screened when they arrived.

You don't know if they were placed in quarantine because you don't know how that quarantine was enforced.

So you're just making shit up now because you got caught bullshitting and cannot handle that criticism.

Mandatory quarantine, you lose:

"The action means that U.S. citizens who have been in China's Hubei Province in the past 14 days will be subject to 14 days of mandatory quarantine if they travel back to the United States."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c

Deal with it.
 
Aww the illiterate fucking retard doesn't know what the word mandatory means.

You don't seem to know what that word means because you can't even think of the penalties for violating that mandate, and you're too scared to check.

It's fine...my question remains and will continue to remain; if there was a mandate, what were the penalties for violating that mandate? And no, your assumptions don't count.
 
Mandatory quarantine, you lose:

Your tactic here seems to be avoidance.

When asked where the people were quarantined, you cannot say.

When asked how the mandate was enforced, you cannot say.

When asked how many people even followed the mandate, you cannot say.


You just repeat "mandate", but every time you do, another question arises that you cannot answer.

So you just repeat like a parrot because that's all you're capable of doing.
 
Have they? Who? When? Twenty years ago?

Here are 10 in the last 5 years (not including El Paso)
Mass Shootings:

Virginia Beach (2019): 12 dead, 5 injuries
Stoneman Douglas High School (2018): 17 dead, 17 injuries
Santa Fe High School (2018): 10 dead, 14 injuries
Thousand Oaks Shooting (2018): 12 dead, 10 injuries
Pittsburg Synagogue (2018): 11 dead, 6 injuries
Las Vegas (2017): 58 dead, 841 injuries
Sutherland Springs Church Shooting (2017): 28 dead, 20 inuries
Orlando Nightclub (2016): 49 dead, 53 injuries
Charleston Church (2015): 12 dead,
Sam Bernadino (2015): 14 dead, 24 injuries

But you said they weren't a threat because they're so small. Turns out you were wrong about that. Whoops.

There you going changing what I said again. I did not say they were not a threat. I said they have miniscule political power. Any person or group can be a threat if they kill people.

You are obviously a threat since you want to kill Nazis.

So I noticed the subtle goalpost shift there...you went to they "want to" from "they have".

Nazis have done these things and are currently doing them. That's why they are a "national threat".

No shift. Islamist groups have committed terroristic acts and mass murders in the past plus they still want to do so. There have been numerous plots uncovered and prosecuted that the FBI prevented (read McCabe's book).

I'm not aware of Islamic terrorists in the US...but I am aware of Nazi and BoThSiDeS terrorists.

Do you ever read a newspaper?

2015: Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a 'Draw Muhammad' cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas. 2 dead (perpetrators) 1 injured.

2015: A civilian opened fire on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing 5 military personnel

2015: In the 2015 San Bernardino attack, married couple Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik shot and killed 14 people and injured 22 others in a killing spree that the FBI was investigating as "act of terrorism".

2016: 49 people were killed and 53 injured in a mass shooting at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida. The shooter, Omar Mateen, pledged allegiance to ISIL by specifically calling police and journalists several times during the incident

2016: 28 2016 Ohio State University attack, 11 people were hospitalized for injuries after a car ramming attack and mass stabbing occurred at Ohio State University. The perpetrator, Abdul Razak Ali Artan, was a Muslim Somali refugee and legal permanent resident of the United States

2017: A man drove a pickup truck into cyclists and runners along about 1 mile (2 km) of a bicycle path in Lower Manhattan, New York City. After he left the vehicle, the driver was wielding two guns (later found to be a paintball gun and a pellet gun); he was shot in the abdomen by police and arrested.[309] An ISIS flag and a document that read either "It will endure." or "Islamic State will endure forever." in Arabic were found in the truck.
 
Here are 10 in the last 5 years (not including El Paso)
Mass Shootings:

Virginia Beach (2019): 12 dead, 5 injuries
Stoneman Douglas High School (2018): 17 dead, 17 injuries
Santa Fe High School (2018): 10 dead, 14 injuries
Thousand Oaks Shooting (2018): 12 dead, 10 injuries
Pittsburg Synagogue (2018): 11 dead, 6 injuries
Las Vegas (2017): 58 dead, 841 injuries
Sutherland Springs Church Shooting (2017): 28 dead, 20 inuries
Orlando Nightclub (2016): 49 dead, 53 injuries
Charleston Church (2015): 12 dead,
Sam Bernadino (2015): 14 dead, 24 injuries

As far as I can recall, none of those were done in the name of ISIS, but interesting you lumped in the racially motivated Pittsburgh shooter with the homophobic Pulse shooter.

Sorry, what point were you trying to make with this?
 
There you going changing what I said again. I did not say they were not a threat.

Yes you fucking did, Flash! You fucking said that they could just be ignored. That would imply that you don't think they're a threat. You only started saying they're a threat after I posted the FBI director saying they were a threat. YOU DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE, and that was the thrust of your entire argument. Yeesh.
 
No shift. Islamist groups have committed terroristic acts and mass murders in the past plus they still want to do so. There have been numerous plots uncovered and prosecuted that the FBI prevented (read McCabe's book)

Right, and whenever there is a terrorist cell, it gets obliterated, doesn't it?

What do you think we've been doing in the middle east with all the bombs we dropped on ISIS?

You said, correctly, that Nazis compare to ISIS when it comes to national threats.

So...big question...what do we do to ISIS???????? (I know you know what we do...I just want to see you say it).
 
No shift. Islamist groups have committed terroristic acts and mass murders in the past plus they still want to do so. There have been numerous plots uncovered and prosecuted that the FBI prevented (read McCabe's book).

So where was the FBI in Sutherland Springs? Or Pittsburgh? Or El Paso? Or Charleston?

And when we find an ISIS cell, what does our military do to it?
 
Here are 10 in the last 5 years (not including El Paso)
Mass Shootings:

Virginia Beach (2019): 12 dead, 5 injuries
Stoneman Douglas High School (2018): 17 dead, 17 injuries
Santa Fe High School (2018): 10 dead, 14 injuries
Thousand Oaks Shooting (2018): 12 dead, 10 injuries
Pittsburg Synagogue (2018): 11 dead, 6 injuries
Las Vegas (2017): 58 dead, 841 injuries
Sutherland Springs Church Shooting (2017): 28 dead, 20 inuries
Orlando Nightclub (2016): 49 dead, 53 injuries
Charleston Church (2015): 12 dead,
Sam Bernadino (2015): 14 dead, 24 injuries



There you going changing what I said again. I did not say they were not a threat. I said they have miniscule political power. Any person or group can be a threat if they kill people.

You are obviously a threat since you want to kill Nazis.



No shift. Islamist groups have committed terroristic acts and mass murders in the past plus they still want to do so. There have been numerous plots uncovered and prosecuted that the FBI prevented (read McCabe's book).



Do you ever read a newspaper?

2015: Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a 'Draw Muhammad' cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas. 2 dead (perpetrators) 1 injured.

2015: A civilian opened fire on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, killing 5 military personnel

2015: In the 2015 San Bernardino attack, married couple Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik shot and killed 14 people and injured 22 others in a killing spree that the FBI was investigating as "act of terrorism".

2016: 49 people were killed and 53 injured in a mass shooting at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida. The shooter, Omar Mateen, pledged allegiance to ISIL by specifically calling police and journalists several times during the incident

2016: 28 2016 Ohio State University attack, 11 people were hospitalized for injuries after a car ramming attack and mass stabbing occurred at Ohio State University. The perpetrator, Abdul Razak Ali Artan, was a Muslim Somali refugee and legal permanent resident of the United States

2017: A man drove a pickup truck into cyclists and runners along about 1 mile (2 km) of a bicycle path in Lower Manhattan, New York City. After he left the vehicle, the driver was wielding two guns (later found to be a paintball gun and a pellet gun); he was shot in the abdomen by police and arrested.[309] An ISIS flag and a document that read either "It will endure." or "Islamic State will endure forever." in Arabic were found in the truck.

And we bomb ISIS all around the world. We even drop bombs on American citizens who have pledged loyalty to ISIS.

So...what is your point? Because you seem to be making the case that we should treat Nazis the way we treat ISIS, and I'm not sure I disagree with that. So let's bomb, detain, torture, and murder Nazis. Sounds good to me! Glad you feel the same.
 
As far as I can recall, none of those were done in the name of ISIS, but interesting you lumped in the racially motivated Pittsburgh shooter with the homophobic Pulse shooter.

Sorry, what point were you trying to make with this?

You said: "Right, but they're not doing it here, are they?"

I said: "Yes, they have already done it here. All the mass shootings in the U. S. have been done by Christians, Muslims, etc."

The topic was mass murders and I listed 10 mass murders.

You also said: "I'm not aware of Islamic terrorists in the US...but I am aware of Nazi and BoThSiDeS terrorists."

And I listed 6 between 2015-2017.

Keep your conversations straight. When I give you proof of something you deny you change the conversation.

And I listed
 
You said: "Right, but they're not doing it here, are they?"

I said: "Yes, they have already done it here. All the mass shootings in the U. S. have been done by Christians, Muslims, etc."

What you said here was that people commit mass shootings (no shit).

Then, you compared Nazis to ISIS.

Then, I asked what do we generally do to ISIS? And you just don't answer that question.
 
And we bomb ISIS all around the world. We even drop bombs on American citizens who have pledged loyalty to ISIS.

So...what is your point? Because you seem to be making the case that we should treat Nazis the way we treat ISIS, and I'm not sure I disagree with that. So let's bomb, detain, torture, and murder Nazis. Sounds good to me! Glad you feel the same.

My point is that you are obviously uninformed when you claimed "I'm not aware of Islamic terrorists in the US...but I am aware of Nazi and BoThSiDeS terrorists."

I was providing you some proof. Just as terrible as mass murder by Nazis, white supremacists, crazy individuals, or anybody else. You don't care about people dying unless they were killed by Nazis.
 
The topic was mass murders and I listed 10 mass murders.

No, the topic was Nazis being a national threat. You tried to unilaterally change the parameters of the debate, on my thread, so you could bOtHsIdEs it.

Then you said they compare to ISIS.

Then I said we bomb ISIS.

Then you went silent on that point.
 
When I give you proof of something you deny you change the conversation.

You didn't give me proof of anything. You just farted out a bunch of mass shootings, and then very dumbly -and with all the sophistry you can muster- came up with the wonderful point that people commit mass shootings. Well, duh, who else would, cats? So, what I don't get is why you think Nazis are a threat now, when you didn't think that before you found out the FBI Director shares my view that they are.

So you are the one who tried to change the conversation by exercising sophistry to defend Nazis by saying other people commit mass shootings too. So you just bOtHsiDeD mass murder because you don't want to admit that Nazis are a national threat. I mean, you admit it now that the FBI director said so, but you didn't think that before.
 
My point is that you are obviously uninformed when you claimed "I'm not aware of Islamic terrorists in the US...but I am aware of Nazi and BoThSiDeS terrorists.".

Well, when ISIS starts protesting with guns in state capitols, then I'll admit that they're as grave a threat as the Nazis who already do.

But backing up a second...you compare Nazis to ISIS...so, OK...what do we do to ISIS, generally speaking?


I was providing you some proof. Just as terrible as mass murder by Nazis, white supremacists, crazy individuals, or anybody else. You don't care about people dying unless they were killed by Nazis.

The only way Flash can process the fact that things aren't equal is to reduce everything down to the lowest possible standard and then make that the point of his argument.

It's a lazy rhetorical trick that doesn't work once you get into the details and nuance.

But Flash isn't very detail-oriented, and cannot be expected to rise to the moment.

Flash would argue that apples and oranges are the same thing because they're both fruit, and Flash knows they're the same because they're both in the "fruit" section of the supermarket.

^^^That is the tactic you've chosen to employ in this argument^^^
 
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