Bernie wins New Hampshire!

Explain that position.

How exactly are successful American business people "the problem"

I bet you and TTQ64 wouldn't say the same thing if Oprah Winfrey was on the ticket.

He's a pride and true racist republican white male who supports the same false narratives as you do.

Oprah didn't support stop and frisk nor the NY police department. Oprah didnt' get her money by locking up Black americans.

And stop trying to equate the few Black billionairs as if it's just as common as white male billionairs.
 
I've attempted to talk sense to immature teenagers enough times in my life that I should know better than to try to do so with a Bernie-bot.

I explain and you ignore, then come back with the same half-baked nonsense and jumped-to conclusions.

I'll make a deal with you.... you go vote for ol' BS and I'll vote for a real Democrat.

I won't try to stop you and you don't try to stop me.

Otherwise, I'm done with this monotonous exercise in futility.

When is a "real Democrat" running? The candidates running for the Dem nomination are far left-wing or socialist idiots...just like the last Dem presidential nominee. You lose again.
 
When is a "real Democrat" running? The candidates running for the Dem nomination are far left-wing or socialist idiots...just like the last Dem presidential nominee. You lose again.

See, Nomad? It doesn't matter who we nominate because Conservatives are just going to consider them illegitimate anyway. So instead of trying to figure out who would be a candidate people like ^this piece of shit^ would vote for, choose a candidate who will inspire people to come out and vote who haven't before.

You're not going to get first time voters to the polls for "moderation".
 
Well, here's what I know...

In 2016, we went with the "moderate" and lost.

In 2014, we went with "moderate" Senate candidates and lost.

In 2010, we went with "moderate" House candidates and lost.

So...if we keep going to moderates and we keep losing, what is that telling you?

"Moderation" by definition isn't enthusiasm or excitement. And the only way you get people to the polls is by getting them enthused and excited for something. "Moderation" ain't it, as we saw in 2016.




Well they think you act in bad faith and demand outsized accommodation after a track record of failure, like 2016.

To think that winning an election isn't dependent on spurring turnout is naive and sky-grasping.

To think that you can persuade people of bad faith to your candidate is naive and sky-grasping.

It's much easier to get a non-voter to vote than it is to change the mind of a Conservative.

If "moderation" was what people wanted, Clinton would be our President.




Then Bernie should be your guy since he's the oldest candidate.

ouch.......that's gotta sting!
 
What Bloomberg said was not racism.

It was the truth

We should resist playing leftist games. It doesn’t help our arguments

I don’t think they were racist either but more importantly, the Democrats think they were.

Ironic, right?
 
I've attempted to talk sense to immature teenagers enough times in my life that I should know better than to try to do so with a Bernie-bot.

I explain and you ignore, then come back with the same half-baked nonsense and jumped-to conclusions.

I'll make a deal with you.... you go vote for ol' BS and I'll vote for a real Democrat.

I won't try to stop you and you don't try to stop me.

Otherwise, I'm done with this monotonous exercise in futility.


you go vote for ol' BS and I'll vote for a real REPUBLICAN.........There fixed it for you.
 
Or not because those are usually handled by CFO's.




Unless they inherited that wealth or were given help either by their family, or the institutional advantages that are inherent in the system.

No billionaire is going to read this thread, so there's no point in sucking up to them.

Let me tell you another secret: Billionaires don't give a shit about you. The reason is because they don't have to because their wealth has insulated them from you. If billionaires did give a shit about you, they wouldn't be billionaires.




So concentrating power is a good thing?




No, but he became on because of his wealth.




Empathy and sympathy are two different things. And no, I don't believe billionaires are capable of either because they've concentrated their wealth and power, and are trying to do more of that concentration.




What is half-baked? You're the one with the half-baked idea that a billionaire cares about your needs and wants, or that a billionaire would ever accommodate you. They don't care about you, and they don't want to accommodate you. All they want to do is preserve their pile of gold, like Smaug. Say, what happened to Smaug?




LOL...would you say that some are "very fine people"?




They lump themselves in with him. How many pictures are there of Bloomberg and Trump together? Several. In fact, here's one. At a fucking golf course. Like besties.

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You haven't explained shit.

You've decided to attack me and attack the millions of young voters who want a change.

You've decided to attack the millions of people at the bottom, whose voices are ignored by billionaires.

You haven't explained why motivating non-voters is a losing strategy while ignoring the fact that "moderation" never results in election victories.

If Clinton was President today, then you might have a point. But she's not. So you don't.




I don't care who you vote for, as long as you vote. And as long as you get others to vote, particularly people who didn't vote in 2016.

I'm willing to bet the message of "moderation" isn't one that is going to help you get those non-voters out to the polls. Who gets excited for "moderation"? Would you get excited for "moderation"? If so, then you have some pretty low standards.

That's what republican racist white males do.......attack the messenger because they can't handle the truth.
 
LV426 said:

You've not backed up one assumption you've made about Democrats running moderate candidates or the effect of having billionaires in public office.

Hence, it's all baseless conjecture.

Yet you want me to prove it wrong.

You made the claims, you back them up.

Until then, it's all just more empty yap-yap-yapping.

TTQ64 said:

Your obsession with race and getting everything in life for free, along with your false accusations, reduces everything you say to mindless yapping,

"Sugar Baby". :laugh:
 
That's what republican racist white males do.......attack the messenger because they can't handle the truth.

I wouldn't say he's a Republican. I believe he's a Democrat, I just don't think he really understands how big the Democratic tent is...and even though the tent is big, there isn't room in it for billionaires.

We need a candidate who will listen to those at the bottom instead of a few at the top.

That's why I support Bernie over everyone else at this point; look at who his donor base is...most all working class people who work at institutions like Amazon and Walmart. People who are in the thick of it, and who have the most to lose. Those are the people I care about most. Those are the people I want to get motivated to vote. The reason they don't now is simply because the Democratic Party has largely ignored them for the support of the billionaire and pundit class...and those people are dicks.
 
You've not backed up one assumption you've made about Democrats running moderate candidates or the effect of having billionaires in public office.

OMG, we ran a moderate in 2016 and she lost.

We ran moderate candidates in 2014 and we lost the Senate.

We ran moderate candidates in 2010 and we lost the House.

How much losing do we need to go through before you realize the problem is "moderation"?
 
I wouldn't say he's a Republican. I believe he's a Democrat, I just don't think he really understands how big the Democratic tent is...and even though the tent is big, there isn't room in it for billionaires.

We need a candidate who will listen to those at the bottom instead of a few at the top.

That's why I support Bernie over everyone else at this point; look at who his donor base is...most all working class people who work at institutions like Amazon and Walmart. People who are in the thick of it, and who have the most to lose. Those are the people I care about most. Those are the people I want to get motivated to vote. The reason they don't now is simply because the Democratic Party has largely ignored them for the support of the billionaire and pundit class...and those people are dicks.

Amen!
 
US media tries another ‘Bernie blackout’ after New Hampshire win, but their game is not working

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Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire primary, but it appears this is such a hard pill for US media to swallow, that they’ve simply decided to ignore it — or at least frame it in a way that somehow makes winning sound bad.


https://www.rt.com/op-ed/480689-bernie-sanders-new-hampshire-media/


Do you think that the media are owned by the same self-serving corporate assholes that Bernie is talking about ?
 
I wouldn't say he's a Republican. I believe he's a Democrat, I just don't think he really understands how big the Democratic tent is...and even though the tent is big, there isn't room in it for billionaires.

We need a candidate who will listen to those at the bottom instead of a few at the top.

That's why I support Bernie over everyone else at this point; look at who his donor base is...most all working class people who work at institutions like Amazon and Walmart. People who are in the thick of it, and who have the most to lose. Those are the people I care about most. Those are the people I want to get motivated to vote. The reason they don't now is simply because the Democratic Party has largely ignored them for the support of the billionaire and pundit class...and those people are dicks.

If it walks like a duck it's a duck

His views are right inline with republicans. Sorry, he the reason dems can't move forward.

The dem party has a large tent but if it keeps supporting republican ideas how do we move forward?
 
Nothing funnier than two fag ass Democrats slapping at each other.........LMAO!!!!!!!!!

They have been doing it a lot lately. More than I have ever seen on JPP

I suspect it is a microcosm of what is going on generally in the democrat party.

That said we can enjoy it but should in no way get complacent.
 
You're entirely correct it will be sweet when Bernie tries to sell, free healthcare, free college, minimum wage of $15 TO $20 an hour, erasing all college debt. A job for anyone that want's one. I will love seeing Trump clean his clock.

Most polls show Bernie edging out. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html

Higher taxes on the mega rich and a progressive tax system for the rest? It sounds like a fair deal. It sounds like a New Deal. Conservatives complain that the poor are lazy. Wouldn't you want them to get a job? I want to know what Trump could possibly say on the debate stage to unsettle Bernie. Is he just going to bark communist and socialist throughout? Bernie isn't Biden. Bernie doesn't have that creepy grandpa vibe. The only 'scandal' of his I've seen involves something his wife actually did.

To paraphrase Lindsey Gramm: Bernie is the most honest man in the senate, he's crazy, but he's honest.

Well it turns out America just might prefer an honest man over a pathological liar, even if he's a socialist.
 
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