Into the Night
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Bigotry. Not everyone that owns an AR-15 is a lunatic. Not every security guard is safe with a handgun either.
At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church
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Bigotry. Not everyone that owns an AR-15 is a lunatic. Not every security guard is safe with a handgun either.
Why should I care what you think? I don't.
I am happy to have a trained, responsible person with a handgun around, but remember the good guy with the gun that was shot dead by the police after killing the lunatic who had the AR?
Also take note how good it was that the guy who attacked the Jewish people in New York was unable to get his hands on an AR.
Also take note how good it was that the guy who attacked the Jewish people in New York was unable to get his hands on an AR.
Into the Night
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Bigotry.
Divisional error fallacy. A home break in is not the only crime, and is not the only threat to life, limb, or property by another.
Compositional error fallacy. Burglars do not necessarily steal a gun that might be in the home.
Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers now.
Divisional error fallacy. Generic conclusion based on isolated case.
Bigotry. Not all guns criminals use are stolen.
Pascal's Wager fallacy. You cannot make a proof out of a speculation.
Into the Night
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Liar.
Bigotry.
Nope. No strength is required to cock a crossbow these days.
Why should only the strong have the ability to defend themselves???
"I don't care what you think" is a cop-out; a cowardly act of running away from an argument you know you're not going to win.
Of course people like you need guns...that's the only way you feel secure. You can just use it to passively threaten anyone who dares make your argument look like the mess it is, and not the infallible principles you think it represents.
You're not entitled to your opinion, and you should give a whole metric ton of shit what others think of you, if you have any hope of persuading them to your side.
Into the Night
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And the reason for the crossbow?
Bigotry. Calling everyone that owns a gun a murderer is just plain bigotry.
Irony of all this is that one's odds of being murdered in a break in is even greater than dying from slipping in your bathtub, and the mere probability of being a victim of gun violence increases considerably by just having a gun in the house
http://www.lifeinsurancequotes.org/additional-resources/deadly-statistics/
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-mortality-risk
The self defense "argument" supposedly justifying guns is inane, just the fact that we now have more guns out there in circulation than any other developed nation and yet still have the highest gun violence statistics of developed nations proves it is bogus, more guns haven't made anyone safer
Gun ownership is a bloody, cynical, capitalist game; buy a gun to protect your home, car, and business from criminals armed with guns they stole from homes, cars, and businesses.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
how about shotguns?.....
Well I do agree it is capitalism on steroids, the gun manufactures has a large segment of the country convinced we are still living in the last half of the 19th Century and the "intellectual" rationale they've sold to go along with the fear mongering is that it is all about Constitutional rights
Which if you subject that argument to just the slightest amount of scrutiny, dies on the vine.
That's when they come back with "I don't care what you think" or some other ham-fisted attempt to duck out of the debate.
Ultimately, even they know that guns are stupid and don't make anyone safer. At this point, they are just being contrarian about it because if they admitted guns are dumb, it would throw all their other long-held beliefs into question. And they're just too afraid to confront the reality that their conventional wisdom has been wrong all these years. I can understand people being reluctant to admit that. Who wants to admit their judgment is completely and totally fucked, anyway? Not these armchair warriors.
Never said those things
1. The tyrants in England "assumed" the same thing...… a shitty little Podunk colony does not have a chance against the greatest military on planet earth.....You are presenting a FALSE PREMISE on just who controls the drones, gunships, seals, and nuclear warheads....you are making a false claim that the MILIATARY will be sided with a rouge government that has determined not to honor the founding principles of this REPUBLIC established by the people and for the people. 2. Just who do you assume is fighting you fascist assholes in stopping you from removing the firewall that is US CONSTIUTION and the STATES BILL OF RIGHTS? 3. Just who do you assume is behind the PLACING of Donald Trump as commander in Chief? Hint: its not the CLOWNS in AMERICA (cia) shadow government....its the PATRIOT leaders in the military that are draining the swamp as we speak.
200K weapons stolen in a nation of 365 million? That is .031%.....a lot if you are moron. LMAO Those weapons that are (wink, wink) stolen.....are stolen by the acts of criminals, not law abiding responsible citizens. So your fascist solution is to remove the weapons from honest citizens? The point was demonstrated in Texas just recently. Armed citizens are quite capable of stopping armed criminals. If only the JEWS had access to arms in NY....that knife totting CIA agent would have been stopped in his tracks without one innocent victim realized. Tis the difference between a state like Texas and a state controlled by fascist liberals.....the unarmed citizens in a gun grabbing state like NY...are nothing but sheep to get slaughtered.
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It was a shotgun a very common hunting gun. Nobody is going to outlaw shot guns. The gun laws that prohibited him from owning a gun didn't stop him because he was a criminal. Gun laws just stop good people. The difference in Sutherland Spring church shooting that kill 27 and the White Settlement shooting that killed 2 is the law changed after the Sutherland Springs shooting. Texas laws now allow churches to organize member into an armed security force. The White Settlement Church of Christ had an organized armed security force and a security force armed member shot the prep in 6 seconds. The change in laws that now allow members to defend themselves saved lives.
This incident shows that trained volunteers on the scene that can react immediately and before the police can arrived can save lives. Its also an argument for arming select teachers who want to train and volunteer to conceal carry at school. Granted not all teachers want or should conceal carry but some do. If I were a student I'd feel better about trained teacher concealed carrying over waiting for a police response while a shooter is free to kill because no one is shooting at him.
Adolf_Twitler
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A shotgun only holds but 3 rounds. And the intruder was shot by a Church Security Staff member- not just a church member.
The reason why Security was able to respond so quickly is because they were already suspicious of the intruder and watching this intruder's every step.
They just didn't check him for weapons when he entered the church, and he was hiding a modified shotgun in his heavy coat.
Many churches here in Texas now have armed security, often times local police officers.
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Unplugged, most shotguns hold 5 rounds. Some, more.
Say what you want, but the fact remains...it was citizens who stopped further deaths in this situation. Law enforcement didn't arrive until everything was done and over-with.
Bigdog
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So how is a Black male supposed to protect himself from the epidemic of Klu Klux Klan attacks? ... call the White police and get shot by them?
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Pretty impressive that a 71 year old man could respond so quickly hitting the target with a head shot from 30 ft.