The Supreme Court just blew up the Obstruction of Congress charge.

Flash said:
If Trump is impeached he is not guilty of anything--he has just been accused. And he will never be guilty since the Senate does not have 2/3 vote to convict him.

We are beyond "proving" anything. All the Dems will vote to impeach and the Reps will all vote against it regardless of any additional information.
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The Izraeli police are waiting for Netanyahu when he is out of office. He will probably sing.
 
Flash said:
If Trump is impeached he is not guilty of anything--he has just been accused. And he will never be guilty since the Senate does not have 2/3 vote to convict him.

We are beyond "proving" anything. All the Dems will vote to impeach and the Reps will all vote against it regardless of any additional information.
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None of this is going to prevent Donald Trump from being impeached. That is what will go down in the history books.

We may have to wait until the election to remove him from office!
 
I hope the investigations continue until Oct 31 next year, regardless whether Trump is removed or not.

Let them concentrate on the Trump criminal organization.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
None of this is going to prevent Donald Trump from being impeached. That is what will go down in the history books.

We may have to wait until the election to remove him from office!
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Agreed. It is a little early to make any predictions about the election.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
None of this is going to prevent Donald Trump from being impeached. That is what will go down in the history books.

We may have to wait until the election to remove him from office!
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history books will say that this is what caused the demmycunt party to go down.........and even your leaders admit you can't beat him if you can't remove him from office by impeachment.....
 
FastLane said:
There Supreme court just blew up the impeachments Obstruction of Congress case today. How you say? They agreed to review the validity of the subpoena that Congress gave Trump over his financial records. That means the way to resolve deputes between Congress and the Executive branch about Congressional subpoena's should be resolved in the court. Congress says Trump obstructed Congress when he claimed executive privilege but the court just proved that subpoena needs to be upheld by the court before Trump has to obey it.
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Hi, Friend. Let me introduce myself. I'm brand new the the forum but I understand that like me, you're a real Rachel Maddow fan :)

Regarding your post: Trump has claimed repeatedly that "he'd be glad to turn over his tax returns, but they're under audit". We all know that's a lie. Over the past 4 decades no presidential candidate or president has failed to make their tax returns public, yet trump has not only lied about being willing to turn them over, but has expended much time and money to keep them hidden. Why don't you have a problem with that?

If there were no issues with trump's financials, he'd turn them over. The information in them is obviously damning and we, his constituents have the right to know. Congress, certainly has the right to subpoena them and trump is breaking the law by withholding them.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump lost these cases in lower courts. he is simply saying he is above the law. You agree. They were settled in courts. trump still refused.
We have held that people have to respond to subpoenas forever. Nobody ignored them and no president ordered others in his admin or who may have knowledge to simply ignore them.
These are not the same thing.
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Obama did you lying Democrat.
 
Trump's Brain said:
Hi, Friend. Let me introduce myself. I'm brand new the the forum but I understand that like me, you're a real Rachel Maddow fan :)

Regarding your post: Trump has claimed repeatedly that "he'd be glad to turn over his tax returns, but they're under audit". We all know that's a lie. Over the past 4 decades no presidential candidate or president has failed to make their tax returns public, yet trump has not only lied about being willing to turn them over, but has expended much time and money to keep them hidden. Why don't you have a problem with that?

If there were no issues with trump's financials, he'd turn them over. The information in them is obviously damning and we, his constituents have the right to know. Congress, certainly has the right to subpoena them and trump is breaking the law by withholding them.
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Welcome to the forum.

Normally, we want to know what our politicians are investing in before we trust them to legislate. It should be law that everyone in Washington be required to show their returns, or at the very least, their portfolios.

Re trump, it's much more important than that. His returns would show that his biggest debt is owed to Putin, or Putin backed banks. There is no way in the world that he would have been elected if the country knew that.

Now that he's in office, it's obvious that every foreign policy decision he makes is for the benefit of Putin.

That's why we need to see what's behind the curtain.
 
OG Yurt said:
Obama did you lying Democrat.
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Lets pretend you have a scent of truth in Obama. What does that have to do with Trump's obstruction? Trump ordered his people to ignore subpoenas and court orders. Did Obama do that? Is it wrong that Trump is doing that? Do you care about the law at all, but just love the orange so much that you do not care what he does. Nixon obstructed justice. Was that a precedent for trump that makes it OK for him? Is that how berzerk you are?
 
Exactly. This is why trump's fighting so hard to keep his returns hidden. Let's see if SCOTUS will uphold the law and enforce congress' subpoena. I'm certain Kavannah and Thomas will oppose congress' wishes.
 
Trump's Brain said:
Exactly. This is why trump's fighting so hard to keep his returns hidden. Let's see if SCOTUS will uphold the law and enforce congress' subpoena. I'm certain Kavannah and Thomas will oppose congress' wishes.
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Sometimes a case is so clear and simple that even a slanted Supreme has to vote the right way. Thomas being the exception.
 
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