Is there anyone in the GOP who advocates to remove money from elections?

DigitalDave said:
It’s not any different than ‘dim pols’ that pander to ‘gullible libs’, which brings me back to my point. You are a gullible monkey who could care less about honesty and more about the theater. But, ya know, those pandering libs might take yur’ gunz and killz da babies!
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They DO want to ban and confiscate my guns. They have openly said such things in the primary debates and otherwise. They ARE murdering babies... MILLIONS of them have been murdered over the last few years alone...
 
Max $200 contribution per election cycle
All funds audited by GAO
No corporate or opaque sources, only natural persons
All private funded
Funds may be to a candidate or a cause


In other words I can write a check to the Fed for up to $200. The check must be drafted on an account in the name of micawber.
I can make it payable to "the official account to reelect Donald Trump" I can't use an LLC. There are NO anonymous soft money anything.
Corporations have no right to finance any cause or election under the guise of speech. Corporations should have limited COMMERCIAL free speech, that's it.
Only the registered govt account can be expended for any campaign or law. No rich person may use his own funds or anyone else's to elect himself.
Any unused funds are forfeited to the general government account.

All problems solved. Ask me another. I have a plan for that.
 
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Adolf_Twitler said:
Oh? Are you accusing the Democrats of being drespectful to poor little innocent Donald Trump?
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The Democrats are making a mockery of our institutions, our electoral systems and tearing the nation in two. Al because they are pissed off a guy they think is the biggest moron on the planet makes them look like morons and beat their moron in 2016.

We'll see how this moronic, anti-American strategy works for the Party of the Jackass in 2020. Meanwhile, continue being wrong and looking like a dumbass. ;)
 
leaningright said:
I admit that I skipped to this last page (at this time) to say this:

I’m not in the GOP but I am conservative...very conservative...and I say no. If money was taken out of the election process what the general public would see, the message they would get that IMO would prove to be the tipping point would come from a largely very, liberal and very biased group of news networks.
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:thumbsup:
 
Micawber said:
Max $200 contribution per election cycle
All funds audited by GAO
No corporate or opaque sources, only natural persons
All private funded
Funds may be to a candidate or a cause


In other words I can write a check to the Fed for up to $200. The check must be drafted on an account in the name of micawber.
I can make it payable to "the official account to reelect Donald Trump" I can't use an LLC. There are NO anonymous soft money anything.
Corporations have no right to finance any cause or election under the guise of speech. Corporations should have limited COMMERCIAL free speech, that's it.
Only the registered govt account can be expended for any campaign or law. No rich person may use his own funds or anyone else's to elect himself.
Any unused funds are forfeited to the general government account.

All problems solved. Ask me another. I have a plan for that.
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:eyeroll:
 
Hello Adolf_Twitler,

Adolf_Twitler said:
The truth used to matter to everyone. Honesty used to be something we respected.

We used to expect and demand honesty from our elected leaders.

We used to expect honesty and the truth from our media.

Fairness and equality used to matter to people.

But these attributes of honesty, fairness, equality, truthfulness, respect for others, has all been replaced with winning at any cost.

Lying, bullying, covering up, winning at any cost, showing disrespect for others, showing disrespect for the law, showing disrespect for the Constitution, showing disrespect for Congress, showing disrespect for the courts, showing disrespect for our Justice department, showing disrespect for people of color, showing disrespect towards our allies, showing favoritism to our adversaries, disrespect towards our military and it's leaders, showing disrespect towards ecology, showing disrespect for our intelligence community, showing disrespect for the media, showing disrespect for our past presidents, showing disrespect for the oath of office of the president, showing disrespect for Democracy, presidential self-interests, vindictiveness, racism, sexism, nepotism, White Nationalism, plutocracy, autocracy, are the new attributes of our nation's current leader, leader of the Democratic world, and leader of the Republican Party- Donald Trump!

If these are not impeachable offenses- THEY DAMN WELL SHOULD BE!

But for sure- they should not be the attributes of our president or any presidential candidate ever again.

And for those who intend to vote for these things- I certainly question your ulterior motives and self-interests.
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The Trump presidency is a lesson in morals for the United States. Will we learn from it?
 
Sailor said:
I was was with you up to the bolded part. Then you went partisan. Both sides are guilty as sin.
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Trump is a singularity of all time lying. For you to make a false equivalency means you need to rinse your pussy out
and go grab another sailor, you lying whore for Trump.:palm:
 
gfm7175 said:
They DO want to ban and confiscate my guns. They have openly said such things in the primary debates and otherwise. They ARE murdering babies... MILLIONS of them have been murdered over the last few years alone...
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Indeed...precisely.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
The Constitution does not allow it. Previous attempts to limit money just resulted in (easy to find) other avenues to fund elections. We already have public funding of presidential nominations and elections and it hasn't worked very well. Ever since Obama did not accept the funding for the general election in 2008 none of the other candidates have taken it, either.

Could you give us an example of an election in which money determined your vote? Laws can't fix problems that do not exist.
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But laws most certainly can address violations to our Constitution. Nowhere in our Constitution is it written that money will rule.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,



But laws most certainly can address violations to our Constitution. Nowhere in our Constitution is it written that money will rule.
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Nowhere in our Constitution does it say that a person can not spend their own money on an election, Snowflake.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
Bloomberg and Steyer prove money can't buy elections.
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Anybody who is willing to spend their own money to get elected is probably not a greedy cheapskate who only wants to spend other people's money.

Flash said:
Taking money out of politics gives the advantage to incumbents.
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Incumbents already have an inherent advantage through name recognition, but challengers have an advantage in calling out the poor record of incumbents and calling for change.
 
Hello DigitalDave,

DigitalDave said:
There is a fair point in this, despite ignoring that money obviously gives someone joining late to the big show some attention. Name recognition plays a huge role as well. Biden is a great example, because anyone that actually talks about the issues can’t stand the fucker, but somehow he’s a front runner. I have no idea what the hell Bloomberg brings but I know he’s running, and he’ll probably buy his way onto the debate stage.
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I know that Biden is in bed with the big banks and corporations but I won't have to pinch my nose quite as hard to vote for him as I did for Hillary. Anything to keep Trump out.

We need a national law mandating Ranked Choice Voting
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
The truth is the way we allow money into politics gives the incumbent a huge advantage. They work tirelessly to get donations, but do it from a position of authority. Those giving money can give it to an insider with the power or speculate about who will win next. Our politicians spend more than half their office time raising money. They spend way too much time doing that. But politics is the business of getting re-elected. So politicians have worked an advantage into the system. That is why we return over 90 percent of our politicians year after year.
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A solution to that is being worked out as we speak.

 
Hello leaningright,

leaningright said:
I admit that I skipped to this last page (at this time) to say this:

I’m not in the GOP but I am conservative...very conservative...and I say no. If money was taken out of the election process what the general public would see, the message they would get that IMO would prove to be the tipping point would come from a largely very, liberal and very biased group of news networks.
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Trump fans only watch Fox.
 
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