Conservatives think parts of the Constitution are "fake"

[Flash]

So, Flash, let's go through your argument right now to see how dishonestly you conduct yourself on these boards, and how you are so steeped in bad faith in everything you do, that you don't even know the difference:

So your point was that MA and VT were not representative of the country, except that I showed they were strikingly more bipartisan than you previously thought.

Being bi-partisan in a state election in which even Republicans are fairly liberal/moderate is not the same thing as winning a nation-wide vote. A state that has voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1984 (MA) or 1988 (VT) are not representative of the U. S.

It is poor reasoning on your part to suggest because a state has elected Republicans in state elections that it is representative of the U. S. in national elections when it has voted Democratic for the last 8-9 times. MA did not even vote for Romney in 2012, so being elected governor in a state does not mean they will support that person for president.

It will be difficult for Warren or Sanders to even win the Democratic nomination.

 

[LV426]

Being bi-partisan in a state election in which even Republicans are fairly liberal/moderate is not the same thing as winning a nation-wide vote.

Why not? You said that most of the country was moderate and centrist, and here we have examples of Democrats winning those voters in New England.

A state that has voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1984 (MA) or 1988 (VT) are not representative of the U. S

How do you figure that? You're telling people in New England they aren't representative of the country and you accuse liberals of alienating voters?

It is poor reasoning on your part to suggest because a state has elected Republicans in state elections that it is representative of the U. S. in national elections when it has voted Democratic for the last 8-9 times.

Democrats have legitimately won the majority/plurality of the popular vote nationally 6 of the last 7 elections.

Republicans have not legitimately won the popular vote nationally since 1988.

So MA and VT are far more representative of the US than not.

MA did not even vote for Romney in 2012

Because he said he didn't care about 47% of the population.

so being elected governor in a state does not mean they will support that person for president.

Well, they didn't support him for President because he is and was terrible.

It will be difficult for Warren or Sanders to even win the Democratic nomination.

Well, you thought that being mean to Conservatives in public last year would result in a backlash against Democrats, so your judgment kinda sucks hairy balls.

 

[Into the Night]

There were not unconstitutional because the 2nd Amendment did not apply to the states

Yes it does.

and every interpretation allowed the federal government to prohibit and restrict--

The Supreme Court does not have authority to change the Constitution.

remember the federal assault weapons ban?

What assault weapons ban? There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'.

 

[Into the Night]

MA and VT are not very representative of the U. S. are they?

The GOP won the popular vote for president in 2004 by 50.7% to 48.3%.

The President is not elected by popular vote. See Article II.

 

[LV426]

It will be difficult for Warren or Sanders to even win the Democratic nomination.

It will be more difficult for Biden. Too much baggage. Doesn't have the stamina.

 

[Into the Night]

They didn't change the Constitution. They just applied the 14th due process clause to the states as intended.

The 14th doesn't apply in that case.

 

[LV426]

It will be difficult for Warren or Sanders to even win the Democratic nomination.

Last quarter, Sanders and Warren each had over $23M in donations. Biden? $15M.

 

[Into the Night]

No it wasn't.

Ohio voting machine shenanigans and Florida voter purges.

Neither are legitimate.

But defend the legitimacy of the re-election of George W. Bush...it's a great look on you. No, really. It is.

The electoral college is legitimate. The President is not elected by popular vote.

 

[Flash]

Why not? You said that most of the country was moderate and centrist, and here we have examples of Democrats winning those voters in New England.

I never said most of the country is moderate and centrist. Democrats winning those voters in VT and MA is not unusual since those two states have voted Democratic for president the last 24-28 years. They are obviously more liberal/Democratic than the entire U. S.

How do you figure that? You're telling people in New England they aren't representative of the country and you accuse liberals of alienating voters?.

Examples of how they are not representative

VT: 94.2% white
MA: 81.7% white
U. S.: 76.8% white

MA: state senate 34-6 Dem; state house 127-32-1 Dem
U. S. House: 9-0 Dem; U. S. Senate 2 Dem

Democrats have legitimately won the majority/plurality of the popular vote nationally 6 of the last 7 elections.

Agreed. But Warren or Sanders were not the Democratic candidate.

Republicans have not legitimately won the popular vote nationally since 1988.

Wrong. Bush won a majority of popular votes in 2004.

So MA and VT are far more representative of the US than not.

So you think Warren or Sanders could win a U. S. Senate election in most other states??

Because he said he didn't care about 47% of the population.

The deploreables? But he did care about those 47% when MA elected him governor?

Well, you thought that being mean to Conservatives in public last year would result in a backlash against Democrats, so your judgment kinda sucks hairy balls.

Nope. It was not my judgment but your lack of understanding. I was saying how hatred toward others got Trump elected and it could happen again.

As I clearly told you at that time, it had nothing to do with the mid-term election. About the mid-term I said the president's party almost always loses seats and that is a better way to predict than any other factors. You then tried to change "almost always" to "always." Then you asked if they always lose 40 seats and I gave five examples showing large variations and you tried to claim those 5 examples weren't representative of all mid-term elections; that was the whole point, there are wide variations in the number of seats lost and 2-3 examples of seats gained.

Alien is a movie where nobody listens to the smart woman, and then they all die except for the smart woman and her cat. Four stars. She then committed suicide.

 

[Irish]

They actually hate the Constitution, which is why they tried to create their own country with their own Constitution in the 1860's.

They lost.

We aren't the ones claiming the country started in 1639, like Moron FAG BETO thinks.

 

[domer76]

We aren't the ones claiming the country started in 1639, like Moron FAG BETO thinks.

Did he? Can you provide that quote? In context

 

[Irish]

Did he? Can you provide that quote? In context

Did you not see the last debate? Beto said this on stage.

 

[domer76]

Did you not see the last debate? Beto said this on stage.

I see, so you can't provide it.

No surprise

 

[Irish]

I see, so you can't provide it.

No surprise

just wait fuck face

 

[domer76]

just wait fuck face

I'm waiting.

 

[Irish]

I'm waiting.

https://ijr.com/orourke-claims-americas-true-founding-was-in-1619/ read em and weep.

 

[domer76]

https://ijr.com/orourke-claims-americas-true-founding-was-in-1619/ read em and weep.

lol

That's it?

I guess you're just to fucking stupid to grasp the symbolism of his comment. "Foundational". He was referring to the first of the slaves who built a great part of this country, yet never enjoyed the fruits of their labor.

This just went completely over your head, didn't it, moron?

“Racism in America is endemic. It is foundational. We can mark the creation of this country not at the fourth of July, 1776, but August 20, 1619, when the first kidnapped African was brought to this country against his will, and in bondage as a slave, and built the greatness and the success and the wealth that neither he nor his descendants would be able to fully participate in and enjoy."

You just aren't very bright, are you?

 

[Irish]

lol

That's it?

I guess you're just to fucking stupid to grasp the symbolism of his comment. "Foundational". He was referring to the first of the slaves who built a great part of this country, yet never enjoyed the fruits of their labor.

This just went completely over your head, didn't it, moron?

“Racism in America is endemic. It is foundational. We can mark the creation of this country not at the fourth of July, 1776, but August 20, 1619, when the first kidnapped African was brought to this country against his will, and in bondage as a slave, and built the greatness and the success and the wealth that neither he nor his descendants would be able to fully participate in and enjoy."

You just aren't very bright, are you?

That's your defense after being exposed to being wrong?

 

[domer76]

That's your defense after being exposed to being wrong?

lol

I have found it impossible to fix the ignorance of you RW idiots. His meaning was clear, yet your stupidity and ignorance prevents you from understanding the point he was making.

Halfwit (My apologies to halfwits)

 

[Irish]

lol

I have found it impossible to fix the ignorance of you RW idiots. His meaning was clear, yet your stupidity and ignorance prevents you from understanding the point he was making.

Halfwit (My apologies to halfwits)

He thinks the founding of the country was 1619. First you tried to deny it was said. Then came up with a crappy defense. You have been exposed. Just like rest of dems.