Socialism Pt 3: Socialism that trump loves

[ThatOwlWoman]

Trolling into the night I see

Always. And incapable of understanding that this

Today, 05:32 PM
Into the Night
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This message is hidden because Into the Night is on your ignore list.

means I'm not interested in his futile whines for my attention.

 

[CFM]

Again, any time Gov't involves itself in the economy it is socialistic, by definition, a City Fire Dept is socialistic, in fact, in the 19th Century some fire departments were privately owned

No "change of stance," fact

So Obamacare is socialism?

You should really look at the definition of socialism.

 

[Into the Night]

It does not meet the definition of socialism. While I disagree with the policy and think we should disband the entire Department of Agriculture, it is not Socialism.

But it is. It is control of the means of production and distribution. It is fascism, one form of socialism.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Not true, not restricted to government interference, different people will have always have different definitions of what is interference, it is government involvement, as Smith would say, a government fire dept limits the invisible hand's role in someone making a profit off of fire fighting

The govt. also sets the standards for the fire dept., what salaries they make, who gets hired, who gets fired, how much they can spend on new equipment and maintenance of existing stuff, etc. Same with public schools, libraries, police depts.

 

[CFM]

Indeed.

Those on the left whine about those paying into SS/Medicare using what they were required to be a part of yet have no problem with someone using food stamps despite that person not paying the taxes that fund it.

 

[Into the Night]

WELFARE is not Socialism.

socialism
[ soh-shuh-liz-uh m ]

noun
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Yes it is. The government is attempting to control sections the economy relating to production and distribution.

 

[archives]

So Obamacare is socialism?

You should really look at the definition of socialism.

Partially, but it was Market based, don't you recall the idea was born in the Heritage Foundation

 

[Into the Night]

Give what a spin? The definition of socialism? That's easy, government ownership of the means of production. As in, nationalizing industry. You're welcome.

That is the definition of one form of socialism, called communism, but it is not the definition of socialism itself.

 

[Into the Night]

If you don't actually know what that is a reference to, it's really to late to tell you....... Have a nice day.

So Trump has not implemented any socialism, he has no power over the debt, and he has killed no one on a 5th ave in any city.

 

[Into the Night]

Was the auto manufacturers' bail out socialism? That's what you all said back then.

Yes.

 

[CFM]

Partially, but it was Market based, don't you recall the idea was born in the Heritage Foundation

You changed things again. According to you, anytime the government involves itself in things it's socialism. It either is or isn't based on what you said. It's clear you don't know the definition of socialism.

If, as you say, the idea was born in the Heritage Foundation, it means the black BOY was taking credit for something he didn't do. No problem. You'll pucker up to him anyway.

 

[Into the Night]

Not true, not restricted to government interference, different people will have always have different definitions of what is interference, it is government involvement, as Smith would say, a government fire dept limits the invisible hand's role in someone making a profit off of fire fighting

What profit is there in fire fighting?

 

[CFM]

Specify. Type of fallacy? Please be prepared to show the associated equation.

You don't consider Dept of Agriculture welfare programs socialism?? What is it, then??

No need to specify. It's like you lying. You either are or aren't. What type of lie doesn't matter except to those unwilling to accept that it is.

 

[Into the Night]

The govt. also sets the standards for the fire dept., what salaries they make, who gets hired, who gets fired, how much they can spend on new equipment and maintenance of existing stuff, etc. Same with public schools, libraries, police depts.

That they do, because they are government employees. That is not socialism.

 

[Bill]

Not true, not restricted to government interference, different people will have always have different definitions of what is interference, it is government involvement, as Smith would say, a government fire dept limits the invisible hand's role in someone making a profit off of fire fighting

Squabble about definitions.......

There is not doubt what they would call it if it was Obama giving billions & billions to keep his base on board...............

 

[Truth Detector]

Really, show us how it is "baloney," or is that just another "truthie" post dropping by to show again how little you comprehend about anything?

I have a better idea; show us how your statement was factual.

 

[countryboy]

That is the definition of one form of socialism, called communism, but it is not the definition of socialism itself.

It's the only definition of socialism. Big government social programs are not social-ism. There is no such thing as "Democrat Socialism". That's an oxymoron, emphasis on moron.

 

[CFM]

Always. And incapable of understanding that this

Today, 05:32 PM
Into the Night
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This message is hidden because Into the Night is on your ignore list.

means I'm not interested in his futile whines for my attention.

No, it's another example of your cowardice and proof that you're afraid of dissenting opinions. No wonder your first husband died. He did himself a favor getting away from a nasty bitch like you.

 

[Into the Night]

Partially, but it was Market based, don't you recall the idea was born in the Heritage Foundation

No, it is socialism. It forces people to buy something they don't necessarily want, or forces them to buy from a given list of 'authorized suppliers' of a product.

 

[Truth Detector]

Was the auto manufacturers' bail out socialism? That's what you all said back then.

That doesn't meet the definition of socialism. It was stupid and unnecessary; but it isn't socialism.