How will "BIG INSURANCE" own the Feds in a single payer system that renders private insurance -and the lobby- moot?
You've never negotiated for anything before, it seems.
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How will "BIG INSURANCE" own the Feds in a single payer system that renders private insurance -and the lobby- moot?
You've never negotiated for anything before, it seems.
Yeah...you probably want what the founders wanted regarding who could or could not vote...and who could or could not own slaves.
You want to live in the 18th century...and it shows.
Tax cuts do not pay for themselves.
You're not listening to me.
State Insurance Commissioners regulate insurance in each state; the Feds are not involved in that. You vote for an Insurance Commissioner. It's the Insurance Commissioner who manages all this, at the state level.
Yeesh.
State insurance commissioners have nothing to do with the Feds. The reason you're so upset about health insurance is because each state regulates it differently, which is what you want, right?
It's your bullshit.
You want the states to regulate insurance the way they want...but you also want other states to abide by the regulations of other states. So on the one hand, you want states to regulate their own insurance markets, but on the other hand you want those states to accept insurance regulated by other states in your own state's regulated market.
It's so stupid, which is why it's your position.
You don't even know what you want. You're just a contrarian who is all amped up on Conservative propaganda, and it's turned you into a confused, anti-social wingnut.
You are so utterly dishonest. You re putting us in with all the countries, including dirt poor ones and dictatorships. An honest evaluation would be among industrial countries. We are at the bottom and have been for a long time. https://www.newsweek.com/united-states-health-care-rated-worst-637114 Healthcare is our problem. We are bad and spend double.
Like so much else over there, it is okay for the very rich, obviously, but a great heap of shit for everyone else. It costs twice as much as anyone else in the world pays and doesn't even cover everyone. It is like a children's lesson to explain the insanity of capitalism.
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Robo
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I haven’t given that reason because, it’s off topic of this OP. Allow me to remind you that the OP is about “The States” involvement in our healthcare insurance as opposed to the federal government’s involvement, the constitutional authority for such and the 50 state laboratory for several possible systems of insurance best fitting the citizens of said states.
As for giving you reasons for topics irrelevant to the OP, I’ll just say, that profits are the incentive for vigorous acts to create, offer and supply necessities and desires to the masses. And in a free market place where actual competition thrives, profits coupled with competitive freedom always delivers the best products at the most reasonable cost.
You just described the very best argument for a “for profit” system for health insurance.
Competitive offered “for profit”health insurance free of the federal government lobbying and regulating system would and could offer plans that allows you to keep your doctor, your hospital and decide along with your provider what services you need and want. If they didn’t another insurance company would find a profit margin that would allow for such at a competitive cost to you.
On the other hand government has no competition. Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. Government is the most likely to regulate who your doctor must be, where you can be hospitalized and what services you may have and what your cost by taxation you’ll pay And that’s exactly what government will do and anybody that believes otherwise is naive beyond repair.
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What I actually want, but am not naive enough to believe can ever happen in America’s BIG government Duopoly Dictatorship, is simply a federal government the size and scope envisioned by our founders and mandated by our Constitution..
Why would anybody buy an insurance policy for health insurance that was non-portable and unrecognized by another state. Selling that is a non-starter. You suppose that you know what the states would deliver. What else do you see in your crystal ball?
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Actually Frankie, most Americans have health insurance through their employer and they like that.
People that only have Medicare and Medicaid have no other choices but to like it otherwise they'd have nothing. BIG government meddling unconstitutionally has seen to that!
Once again, states already regulate their own insurance markets, and insurers are free to offer insurance plans across state lines.
The reason most don't is because states regulate their insurance markets differently from each other, which is what you want, right?????
That's what a State Insurance Commissioner does, dummy.
The Feds have no hand in how an individual state regulates its insurance market.
What you want is for states to set up their own regulations, and then abide by other states' regulations in their regulated market.
Your position is cognitive dissonance.
The part of the process you are defending has nothing to do with your actual health care.
There is no benefit to how health care is delivered to you by privatizing the administration of reimbursements after you receive care.
You simply don't know what health insurance is, what insurance companies do, and how any of it relates to the care your doctor provides.
Robo
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You just don't understand the corrupt duopoly Washington government do you? You're naive enough to believe that BIG Health Insurance corporations with their lobbying racket would ever allow their puppet politicians in Washington to pass a Single Payer system they didn't have their grubby paws in, huh? They'll pay the bills for a "PROFIT" and be reimbursed by a BIG Racketeering Government taxpayer ripoff.
No I didn't. It takes a real brain-dead idiot to think that.
Do you...do you think private insurance isn't already for-profit? You don't seem to have any understanding of health care or health insurance.
OMG - The Feds do not regulate health insurance in the states, you fucking idiot.
I seriously don't know how many times it needs to be said before it sinks in, but at this point I get the sense you are acting in bad faith because you don't want to admit you're full of shit.
States regulate their own insurance markets right now. There is no Fed involvement when it comes to how states regulate private insurance other than mandating that all insurance plans meet 14 basic minimum requirements.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it shows.
Again, you have to choose an insurance plan first before you get to choose your doctor. So right away, the insurer is limiting your choice. In a single payer system, there are no provider networks, which means you're free to choose whatever doctor you want, not whatever doctor the insurance company tells you who you can see.
I don't believe you understand what health insurance is, what insurance companies do, and how any of it relates to health care.
It seems to me that you don't know what you want, since your position is contradictory; you want states to be free to regulate insurance as they see fit (which they already do, moron), but you want other states to recognize your state's regulations, which defeats the purpose of having a state regulate their own insurance market.
Your position is cognitive dissonance. It's masturbatory. It's a circle jerk and you're voluntarily eating the cracker.
Wow.
Competition in...administering reimbursement since that's an insurance company's sole function.
How does competition in administration of reimbursements improve or enhance the care your doctor gives you before they're reimbursed?
BULLSHIT!
Less than half have health insurance through their employer.
Most like it just fine. JUST FINE!