NFL Players Kneel, Raise Fists During National Anthem in Preseason Games

[dukkha]

You & I have extraordinarily different ideas of what constitutes "patriotism."

Of course you dismiss their concerns. And you really need to get over it, snowflake. I still can't believe that people's sensibilities are so delicate that seeing a player kneel in peaceful protest causes them "outrage" and "ruins the game" for them.

And here is where I question the sincerity, because most didn't care at all when Trump implied that he didn't like brave veterans who were captured in war.

you said "chumminess" I corrected that to patriotism.

Now you start telling me I'm "dismissing their concerns" .I am NOT.. In fact I've called for automatic review of all police shooting of anyone ( black/white/green) by a district/state attorney, in that citizen police review boards
are too politicized.

Take your Trump bashing elsewhere, take the reactionary politics elsewhere..come up with ideas for police shooting (reviews), and leave the National Anthem out of it all

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

you said "chumminess" I corrected that to patriotism.

Now you start telling me I'm "dismissing their concerns" .I am NOT.. In fact I've called for automatic review of all police shooting of anyone ( black/white/green) by a district/state attorney, in that citizen police review boards
are too politicized.

Take your Trump bashing elsewhere, take the reactionary politics elsewhere..come up with ideas for police shooting (reviews), and leave the National Anthem out of it all

It's funny you see it as "Trump bashing." All I did was repeat what he said.

 

[dukkha]

Put the anthem at the end of the game and you would be scratching your ass running out the stadium with the vast majority of everybody else.

Most college teams play the anthem BEFORE their players take the field.

You talk that dumb shit about "us all being in this together" while you support THE most divisive administration in American history.

You're not invisible dude .. WE CAN SEE YOU. :0)

JFC. you support da resistance" and you call Trump "divisive?
Who won't even accept the results of the election? It ain't Trump. It's these asshats



I'm open to moving the anthem to another time of the game.
Like I said I think that commonality has meaning for all Americans

 

[Heff]

Rich athletes virtue-signalling, while at the same time denigrating the very country and people that provide for their lifestyles, is pretty ironic.

 

[blackascoal]

you said "chumminess" I corrected that to patriotism.

Now you start telling me I'm "dismissing their concerns" .I am NOT.. In fact I've called for automatic review of all police shooting of anyone ( black/white/green) by a district/state attorney, in that citizen police review boards
are too politicized.

Take your Trump bashing elsewhere, take the reactionary politics elsewhere..come up with ideas for police shooting (reviews), and leave the National Anthem out of it all

"Take your Trump bashing elsewhere" .. meaning that you do not have the chops to deal with a truth that is right in front of your face.

 

[dukkha]

It's funny you see it as "Trump bashing." All I did was repeat what he said.

no comment on my solution? you wanna keep calling me snowflakes?

It ain't about what Trump said. It's bigger then that, it's bigger then player concerns. Like I said it's about our commonality.

 

[dukkha]

"Take your Trump bashing elsewhere" .. meaning that you do not have the chops to deal with a truth that is right in front of your face.

up your game. There is a lot that needs to be done. I've mentioned that citizen review boards are not good enough.
There needs to be a LEGAL REVIEW of all police shootings.

are we having any discussions on solutions? or are we focused on ceremony/kneeling/Trump?

Whatever value kneeling had is long past, it's just become squabbling. part of the noise that leads to no solutions

 

[Life is Golden]

There is a loser here...and its name is "Stargazer."

The people doing the shitting are folk like you...and you are shitting on the institutions that make this Republic work. You all should be called traitors...and laughed at for demeaning others.

ASIDE: You may actually be a stargazer as well as an asshole, so I gotta ask if the cloud conditions where you are will permit Perseid viewing over the weekend. Conditions here suck...so no go for New Jersey. Supposed to be a spectacular shower this year...but that is what they say lots of years.

Yet the ones being laughed at are the brainless goons this country made millionaires, who are now on the job, shitting on the American flag.

You will lose this one, every time. Anti-Americanism isn't a popular position, these days.

 

[Darth Omar]

Oh, please. "Sealed the deal." You never took them or their concerns seriously, and you never will.

Kaep's socks were a mistake - but the man is sincere in his commitment to equality. Sorry 'bout that.

Nah, I think Kap has a thing about cops.

Then there was this:

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michae...-about-us-oppression-wears-communist-dictator

Why should any thinking person take seriously, someone who whines about US oppression, while wearing a shirt glorifying a communist dictator? Maybe you can square that circle or make some lame excuse for Kap.

I’ll never understand lefties lol.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Yet the ones being laughed at are the brainless goons this country made millionaires, who are now on the job, shitting on the American flag.

You will lose this one, every time. Anti-Americanism isn't a popular position, these days.

You are correct, Stargazer...Anti-Americanism is not a popular position.

That is why I am trying to get the goofus American conservatives, who are the Anti-American force, to break off from that shit-can political philosophy, and develop some respect for a Republic that has lasted as long as ours has.

The players protesting are not shitting on our flag.

The people like you who are castigating them for doing what they are doing...are the ones shitting.

 

[blackascoal]

JFC. you support da resistance" and you call Trump "divisive?
Who won't even accept the results of the election? It ain't Trump. It's these asshats



I'm open to moving the anthem to another time of the game.
Like I said I think that commonality has meaning for all Americans

You talk like a 12 year-old. Completely oblivious to all that's going around you.

Trump isn't divisive???? Such a moronic response. Of course he is and you know it.

 

[Life is Golden]

You are correct, Stargazer...Anti-Americanism is not a popular position.

That is why I am trying to get the goofus American conservatives, who are the Anti-American force, to break off from that shit-can political philosophy, and develop some respect for a Republic that has lasted as long as ours has.

The players protesting are not shitting on our flag.

The people like you who are castigating them for doing what they are doing...are the ones shitting.

Nope, I love this country.

They are millionaires, this country made them rich. Their 'protests' are based on lies.

Do you recall the 'hands up don shoot' lie regarding the fat thug, Mike Brown? Remember when the players came up with their hands up?

And it was all a lie. A huge lie. Just like their bogus 'complaints' are. They need to shit on the flag in their own time. People are fed up. Those owners are going to have to make a choice. Support a bunch of brainless goons pushing a bogus lie or support America.

 

[dukkha]

You talk like a 12 year-old. Completely oblivious to all that's going around you.

Trump isn't divisive???? Such a moronic response. Of course he is and you know it.

not what I said.
I compared de-legitimization to Trump. De-legitimization has NO PLACE in our elections.

You guys fret over Russian troll farms, but are willing to impeach over nada.

da resistance started election night. Hillary bashed Trump for saying he might not accept election results?
So whom hasn't accepted it? Hillary and the resistance!!

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Nah, I think Kap has a thing about cops.

Then there was this:

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michae...-about-us-oppression-wears-communist-dictator

Why should any thinking person take seriously, someone who whines about US oppression, while wearing a shirt glorifying a communist dictator? Maybe you can square that circle or make some lame excuse for Kap.

I’ll never understand lefties lol.

I think a lot of minorities have a thing about cops. Hmmmm...could there be a reason for that?

And please don't pretend Trump is "Mr. law enforcement supporter."

 

[Life is Golden]

Built on lies

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2...039t_shootquot_was_built_on_a_lie_405344.html

 

[Phantasmal]

I'm very familiar with the lies about law enforcement.

Does "hands up don shoot" ring a bell? One of the biggest LIES ever foisted on the public.

I asked for your interpretation of their 'position' which you declined to state.

Don't know it, huh? Just repeating the Dem meme.

It’s sad you lie and distort the truth.

 

[Life is Golden]

It’s sad you lie and distort the truth.

Again, what is their position? Let's talk about real lies.

(CNN)"Hands up, don't shoot" is now about more than the shooting that killed Michael Brown, but it's also not an accurate representation of the incident that sparked nationwide protests, federal investigators concluded in a report released Wednesday.

The Justice Department's investigation into Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson's shooting of Brown concluded that witness accounts that the African-American teenager surrendered with his hands up "do not support the prosecution of Wilson." The Justice Department decided not to pursue federal charges against Wilson after its investigation, it officially announced Wednesday.

Instead, the physical evidence and accounts by "credible witnesses" suggest Wilson shot Brown multiple times only as "Brown was moving toward Wilson," according to the report.

 

[blackascoal]

up your game. There is a lot that needs to be done. I've mentioned that citizen review boards are not good enough.
There needs to be a LEGAL REVIEW of all police shootings.

are we having any discussions on solutions? or are we focused on ceremony/kneeling/Trump?

Whatever value kneeling had is long past, it's just become squabbling. part of the noise that leads to no solutions

More stupid talk meant for your fellow cellmates.

FORBES: How Colin Kaepernick's Imperfect Protest Could Lead To Socioeconomic Empowerment
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianm...test-could-lead-to-socioeconomic-empowerment/

From Kaepernick sitting to Trump’s fiery comments: NFL’s anthem protests have spurred discussion
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

NFL player protests are leading to positive change
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...r-protests-leading-positive-change/804323001/

NFL teams' charitable efforts as part of protests: a running list
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-charitable-efforts-part-protests-running-list-134152884.html

NFL to support social issues, won't mandate standing for anthem
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ocial-issues-wont-mandate-standing-for-anthem

Not sure what metrics you are looking for, but I'm real sure they aren't the metrics that anyone who is actually looking for unity would be looking for.

 

[blackascoal]

not what I said.
I compared de-legitimization to Trump. De-legitimization has NO PLACE in our elections.

You guys fret over Russian troll farms, but are willing to impeach over nada.

da resistance started election night. Hillary bashed Trump for saying he might not accept election results?
So whom hasn't accepted it? Hillary and the resistance!!

Blind as a mole. :0) A trump mole.

 

[Phantasmal]

Again, what is their position? Let's talk about real lies.

(CNN)"Hands up, don't shoot" is now about more than the shooting that killed Michael Brown, but it's also not an accurate representation of the incident that sparked nationwide protests, federal investigators concluded in a report released Wednesday.

The Justice Department's investigation into Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson's shooting of Brown concluded that witness accounts that the African-American teenager surrendered with his hands up "do not support the prosecution of Wilson." The Justice Department decided not to pursue federal charges against Wilson after its investigation, it officially announced Wednesday.

Instead, the physical evidence and accounts by "credible witnesses" suggest Wilson shot Brown multiple times only as "Brown was moving toward Wilson," according to the report.

You forgot your to post your link, Wilson isn’t the only one killed by cop and his killing will always be controversial.