This is f*cking embarrassing,

I accept you concession that you are a coward and a traitor to your nation, Grampy.
You are a disgrace to any military record you claim to have. Those you served with are revolving in their graves in disgust as you kiss the ass of the murderous autocratic dictator whose life's goal is to bring down our democracy and republic they died defending.
Congratulations coward.

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I find that most Conservatives lie and embellish their personal histories in forums like these because they know they can't be verified. So they invent circumstances for their message board characters that lend credibility to their discredited arguments so they don't have to admit they're wrong or that they got conned.

When Trump is gone -and he will be gone- these people are going to be left holding the stinking bag of fascism. They should not and will not be allowed to come back from that. Everything they say, everything they do, everything they believe will have to be qualified with the fact that their minds were so weak, their character so lacking, their integrity so non-existent because they were fooled by Russian propagandists.

You don't come back from that.

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They are forced to be fine with it because the only other alternative is to admit that he's a traitor and that they got conned into voting for him thanks to Russian propaganda.

Their pride will never allow them to admit that, so they are going to go down with that sinking ship.

But never fret, they will try to rebrand once it's over again. That's why we must #BurnTheLifeboats, and make these people accept responsibility by drowning in their own delusion and lies.

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Yep. He has also demanded that others thank him for his service. I have never known a vet with a shred of integrity or honor to do that, have you?

Damn, even the ppl we entrust with our nation's existence have gone over.

Truth is that he's not a veteran. He's pretending to be one so that people will take his message board posts seriously.
 
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Mueller Just Uncovered a Core Russian Conspiracy
The special counsel's latest indictment reaches back to his investigation's origin story: the hacking of the 2016 election.

A grand jury in Washington, D.C., on Friday indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers, charging them with hacking intended to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

The indictment, sought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, charge the defendants with hacking into computers and email systems of the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta. The hackers also allegedly broke into computer systems of an unidentified state board of elections, stealing personal information for 500,000 voters.

Friday’s indictment is important because the hacking of the DNC was the origin story for the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. The DNC announced in June 2016 that its computer networks had been infiltrated, and security experts quickly concluded that Russia was behind the break-in. Further investigation by multiple American intelligence committees reached the same conclusion. Since then, there have been new allegations and revelations about Russian interference, ranging from the “troll farm” that was the target of Mueller indictments earlier this year to allegations of coordination and collusion between Russians and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

President Trump has repeatedly derided Mueller’s investigation as a “witch hunt,” even as it produces indictments, guilty pleas, and a pile of new, detailed information about how Russian interfered. The hacks are an especially important part of this case: Unlike claims of collusion or obstruction of justice, the hacking clearly constituted a crime, and there was a clear culprit. As a result, the fact that Mueller hadn’t charged anyone in connection with the crime until now had become conspicuous.

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That curious silence ended on Friday. The defendants are charged with conspiracy against the United States, identity theft, and money laundering.

“The object of the conspiracy was to hack into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, steal documents from those computers, and stage releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the indictment states.

The indictment lays out in more detail than previously known how the hacking worked. While the federal government released an intelligence document explaining its conclusions, it offered little hard evidence. Mueller marshals more detailed forensic evidence, recording specific actions, down to searches run and files deleted.

According to Mueller, the GRU, Russia’s main foreign-intelligence agency, conducted the operation with the intention of interfering with the election. One unit was charged with hacking, while another had responsibility for spreading what was known.

The hacking unit used two methods. The first was spearphishing—sending emails intended to trick users into divulging user names and passwords. This was already known to be the method by which hackers got into Podesta’s email. The second was to hack into computer networks, installing malware that allowed them to spy on users, capture keystrokes, take screenshots, and steal files. In addition to the Democratic targets, the Russians allegedly tinkered with hacking state boards of election. Various reports have speculated on whether the Russians did, in fact, break into state election functions, and the indictment provides an answer.

To get the documents out, the second GRU unit created two front personas. One, called DCLeaks, released an early tranche of Podesta emails. The second, Guccifer 2.0, took his name from an earlier Romanian hacker, who became famous for releasing pictures of former President George W. Bush’s paintings. Though they pretended to be Americans and a Romanian, respectively, both DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 were Russian intelligence, Mueller charges. To cover up their tracks, they set up a network outside Russia, paid for with cryptocurrencies.

The indictment states that the GRU officials corresponded with several Americans. For example, in August, Guccifer 2.0 “wrote to a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, ‘thank u for writing back … do u find anyting [sic] interesting in the docs i posted?’” Previous investigations have already revealed that that individual was Roger Stone, the sometime Trump adviser and former business partner of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

The indictment also says that the GRU used an outside organization to help disseminate the documents. Though it is not named, the details indicate it is WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has insisted that his organization’s source for documents was not the Russian state.

The indictment also says that in August 2016, an unnamed U.S. congressional campaign requested stolen documents from Guccifer 2.0. The hackers provided that information.

“There’s no allegation in this indictment that the Americans knew they were corresponding with Russian intelligence officers,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said during a press conference in Washington on Friday.

Yet there’s evidence in the indictment to suggest that collusion between the Trump campaign was happening not through back channels, but out in the open—whether the Trump campaign was aware or not. On July 27, 2016, Trump publicly called on Russia to find and release emails from Hillary Clinton, less than two months after Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Manafort met with Russians at Trump Tower in the hopes of receiving damaging information about Clinton. Trump Jr. was also told in an email that Russian President Vladimir Putin supported his father’s bid for the presidency.

While Trump never got his wish, that was allegedly not for want of trying by the hackers, whom Mueller says tried to get at the emails:

On or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton's personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.

Rosenstein was careful to delineate what the indictment does and doesn’t say.

“There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” he said. “There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result.”

Those are carefully worded statements, though. Just because the indictment doesn’t present evidence doesn’t mean that crimes were not committed, nor that election results were not affected. Even if no votes were changed, as appears to be the case, the goal of interference like this is to change voters’ opinions. It’s difficult to isolate the effect that any given factor had on the election, but there was heavy coverage of the hacked emails during the campaign, which reinforced negative impressions about Clinton.

Rosenstein said that the case would be transferred from Mueller’s team to the Justice Department’s national-security division. That may be, in part, an acknowledgment that there’s little chance any of the defendants will see an American trial, since Russia won’t extradite them. The indictment will, however, restrict their travel outside Russia.

Mueller’s investigation had been comparatively quiet for some time, other than dueling with Manafort’s lawyers, including a revocation of bail due to allegations of witness-tampering. It’s expected that at some point soon, Mueller will go silent until after the November midterm elections, rather than risk being seen as interfering in politics.

Rosenstein announced the indictment at the same time that Trump was in the United Kingdom, meeting with Queen Elizabeth. Rosenstein said he had briefed Trump on the coming indictment and that he was aware. Rudy Giuliani, a Trump lawyer, applauded the indictment, despite saying just hours earlier that the entire Mueller probe was corrupt and should be dissolved.

Trump, who is scheduled to meet with Putin Monday, said once again on Friday morning that Mueller’s investigation was a witch hunt. In this case, however, Mueller has brought indictments in a case where a crime was clearly committed, and he has presented evidence of Russian involvement. That’s unlikely to stop Trump from making spurious claims about Mueller, but with each new piece of evidence the special counsel uncovers, the president’s protests hold less water.

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Truth is that he's not a veteran. He's pretending to be one so that people will take his message board posts seriously.

I usually take ppl at their word if they state things like their career, status, whatever. But when you catch them lying about stuff like Chumpy, everything else they say becomes tainted with doubt.
 
I usually take ppl at their word if they state things like their career, status, whatever. But when you catch them lying about stuff like Chumpy, everything else they say becomes tainted with doubt.

I don't take people at their word just because I've seen the pattern before when I worked on the Joe (sam) the Plumber (Wurzelbacher), Julie (My health care costs shot up from Obamacare, but actually didn't) Boonstra, and Ashley (A black guy carved a backwards B in my face for "Barack Obama") Todd.

The Conservative pattern is to make a stupid statement, then qualify that statement with questionable personal histories and anecdotes they know cannot be verified.

So when a Conservative says they're a veteran, or a small business owner, or are married to (insert minority group here), or have achieved success in their lives but refuse to prove any of it, that's usually a good indicator that they're lying.
 
Yep. He has also demanded that others thank him for his service. I have never known a vet with a shred of integrity or honor to do that, have you?

Damn, even the ppl we entrust with our nation's existence have gone over.

You fucking lying slut. But have a ball, sane people see you for what you are.
 
Truth is that he's not a veteran. He's pretending to be one so that people will take his message board posts seriously.

Keep telling yourself that as that VA check that I get and you contribute to arrives every month. Fucking loser.
 
Trump/Putin press conference

Earlier when a reporter just Trump if he bought up Russia interference Trump skipped over the question and went into the usual dialogue on what a great victory he attained, and Putin added that he was unaware of anything but would look into it

Now, when asked if he believed the US intelligence agencies or Putin he went into a rant about Hillary's server. The next question if Trump would warn Putin not to do it again was also skirted over with a regurgitation on Hillary and the election. Putin pretty much concurred

Love to see how Fox is going to spin this debacle


Any intelligence agency that claims they can pinpoint the source of any hacking is just lying.
You can trace back certain network events to other computers, but you can NEVER ensure what is the origin.
That is the whole point of creating remote bots.
You can easily infect a remote computer to look like and appear to be the source when it is not really.

This is computer science 101, and any intelligence agency that does not get that is totally incompetent.
 
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