Why do you allow the lies?

[Leonthecat]

A man who is unmoved by the roars and squeals of the fickle mob is a man to be admired, IMO.

Will you hail Trump for his steadfastness, dear Brother?

I will hail his inhumane stubbornness if it causes the GOP to lose the house this fall, my brother.
That is a promise.

 

[Legion]

I will hail his inhumane stubbornness if it causes the GOP to lose the house this fall, my brother.
That is a promise.

You are a cat of your word, dear Brother.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You're getting more out of Medicare now than you ever put in.

It is government-run and taxpayer-funded. That's socialism, pal.

OHHH, NOOOOOO I'm not.

If I had all that I've contributed, along with attributable interest, is the only way I would have more then I've paid in.

You can continue to cry socialism, at the top of your voice; but that doesn't make it fact.

 

[Leonthecat]

Are you prepared to issue a liberal prediction, dear Brother? You know how I love those.

Not a liberal prediction per se, but more of a pragmatic assessment of what he is likely to do next.
What I see is that Trump will take another tack on immigration entirely before too long. Zero tolerance is costing him far too much in political capital to remain with it much longer and congress is far too slow to respond, my brother.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Isn't there a statutorily-prescribed procedure for immigrating to the United States?

I do believe there is.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Poor Frank, got triggered, HAD to make a comment, and now can only project his own feelings and behaviors on others.

Hey, USF.

Still making the same mistakes.

Same ending. Never changes...except for the words.

I understand, Frank.

I doubt it.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I can see why you wouldn't want to suggest anyone, after you've turned out to be such a failure while under their care.

Lame.

I understand, Frank.

I doubt it.

 

[Legion]

What I see is that Trump will take another tack on immigration entirely before too long.

Is this another liberal prediction? You're too good to me, dear Brother.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Is that a YES, that you'll take the bet??

Never satisfied with the answers you get. Like a two year old demanding the answer wanted.

Too bad.

I'll understand, Frank, if you don't want to rely on your feels.

I doubt it.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I understand, Frank, that you just can't admit your failure(s).

I don't admit to failures. I've had some. I acknowledge them.

Nothing wrong with failing. One never truly succeeds without a few...or without many.

You are kidding yourself. Do yourself a favor and do introspection. You will benefit from it.

Oh...I doubt you understand.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I was just following your lead, on the repetition.

Kidding yourself never works. You know when you are doing it...even if you do not know it on a conscious level.

But I understand why you do it, Frank.

I doubt that.

 

[Ross Dolan]

No suggestion on my part; but I understand your need(s), Frank.

Yeah...it was suggested by you.

And I doubt you understand.

 

[Ross Dolan]

NO; I respond to you so everyone can see your desperation to "win", even when your know your losing.

"Losing" and "winning" in one of these things is an illusion, USF.

Stop with the bravado. You are not even fooling yourself. And you will pay a heavy price for attempting to deceive yourself.

But I understand, Frank.

I doubt that.

 

[Legion]

I do believe there is.

And you are correct, sir.

Here's some interesting reading that I doubt the liberals have taken the time to research:

The dependency court is charged with establishing a permanent plan—in an expeditious manner—for each foster child. In order to develop an appropriate permanency plan, the court must have reliable information regarding all potential relative caregivers who may be able to provide the dependent child a safe and stable home. The era of extended family members residing in the same home town or even the same state is over. Child welfare cases increasingly involve interstate and international placement options.

These examples illustrate only a few of the possibilities:

• A child is illegally transported into the US by human traffickers and comes into foster care as a victim of sexual exploitation. There are allegations that her parents in South America allowed her to be taken to the US.
• Two parents and their three children enter the US illegally and the mother gives birth to a sibling in this country. All children are placed in foster care as a result of a dependency finding. The parents are deported, leaving their four children—three of whom are in the US illegally.
• Mother and father meet while attending college in the US. Mother is a US citizen and father is a Guatemalan citizen. They have a child in the US and later separate. Father returns home to Guatemala. The child comes into foster care as a result of his mother’s mental health problems and use of illegal drugs. Mother is not a permanent placement option.

Family reunion is not always in the “best interest” of a child, even absent evidence of abuse or neglect. Take the typical case of an independent child migrant, say from Guatemala or Honduras or El Salvador, who decides to travel to the US to seek work to support his indigent family. There is no coercion, trafficking, or exploitation involved, it is the child’s own decision to seek a better life—an education, a regular income, a secure future. In this sort of case, it is not acceptable to simply trot out the mantra of “best interest”; one needs much more information about what would await the child back home. Would living as a street child, or as a destitute son of poverty stricken and unemployed parents, or as the sole companion of a mother with AIDS, trump the chance to learn and earn? Should the right to family life eclipse all other child rights, such as the right shelter and adequate health care? The answer is neither self evident nor straightforward. It depends on a careful analysis of the facts of the individual case.

In some cases to be sure, children should be returned to their parents, particularly where there is evidence that deceit, exploitation and coercion have played a part in the child’s migration. The cases of children ostensibly brought to the US for education who then end up in domestic servitude or prostitution speak for themselves.

Even in those cases, one needs to ascertain what will await the child if he is sent home. Will it be re-trafficking? Will it be punishment for not having successfully accomplished the family’s migration goals? Will it be—as it was in the infamous case of the Guatemalan street child Edgar Chocoy—death at the hands of a gang?


http://www.casaforchildren.org/atf/cf/%7B9928CF18-EDE9-4AEB-9B1B-3FAA416A6C7B%7D/0802_international_issues_in_dependency_court_cases_0119.pdf

 

[Nordberg]

The Rude Pundit suggests that trump and the right are trying to goad the leftys into doing something they can make a big deal over. See how unAmerican they are? See how they do not respect the law? Their leaders should be arrested and charged.

 

[Ross Dolan]

OHHHHHHHHHH; so you just want to flap your lips and see your BS in print.

No. I want to discuss the state of affairs of our nation. Even with you...someone off the edge.

Got it.

I doubt that.

I understand, Frank.

I doubt that also.

 

[Legion]

The Rude Pundit suggests that trump and the right are trying to goad the leftys into doing something they can make a big deal over. See how unAmerican they are? See how they do not respect the law? Their leaders should be arrested and charged.

Hilarious.

You want a prosecutor to arrest the POTUS and potentially hundreds of of Americans based on the "suggestion" of "the rude pundit".

 

[Leonthecat]

Is this another liberal prediction? You're too good to me, dear Brother.

Don't you agree that his current position is unsustainable given the political capital it is costing him, dear brother?
Or do you subscribe to the notion that a change in policy, under pressure, will cost him more from his extreme base.

Either way I see Daffy in a losing predicament.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I will hail his inhumane stubbornness if it causes the GOP to lose the house this fall, my brother.
That is a promise.

Yeah...it may end up with the GOP losing the House.

BUT...it may also end up with a bunch of people like some here...pleading "I was only following orders" at a trial some day.

They may be convicted...but the cost to the world for the need for those trials will be devastating.

These creeps and the people they still hail...are pond scum. They have not learned the lessons of history...and are trying to force a repeat.

I hope they don't succeed...

...but they may.

And if they "succeed"...we all will have failed.

 

[Legion]

Don't you agree that his current position is unsustainable given the political capital it is costing him, dear brother?

My agreement is irrelevant to the course of human events, dear Brother. It's all in the game.