Americans Prefer Obama over trump by a Wide Margin

[anatta]

In the end I couldn't care less what historians think any more. As the country gets more polarized it's just some liberal's opinion vs. a conservative's. There's little objectivity anymore. It's fortunate that we have someone undoing some of Obama's extremism and vision to reward personal irresponsibility and penalize personal responsibility. (Who in their right mind would do that with their own kids?)

we have lost the ability to critique our politics. Historical distance generally gives a better perspective, but when virtually ALL contemporary commentary is just partisan noise, there are no contemporary sources to refer to by historians.
There aren't any papers of record, or unimpeachable sources remain to measure up

 

[Gotcha68]

Like I said, they stoked the flames. Funny how I can't find any polls on race relations since Trump's election. Hmmm. Maybe fake news wants to keep it under wraps.

You know what else you can't find, all the information the Trump administration has deleted from the official White House page. Just because you can't find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[iewitness]

You know what else you can't find, all the information the Trump administration has deleted from the official White House page. Just because you can't find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

the "white house page" is the now defunct and awaiting execution propaganda yukko creation of the great and worthless Barack Hussein Marshall Davis. it should be 100% deleted forever. let it die.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

These search results are all from when Obama was president. I truly believed he tried to stoke racial animosity and I became sure when he said Trayvon could've been his son, an indirect insult to his two daughters.

I know you believe that, but that does not make it true. I clicked on the top story on your posted link to Bing.

"Positive opinions of race relations rose above 50 percent in the 2000s, and reached a high of 66 percent in April 2009, shortly after Barack Obama took office. But those positive assessments have not lasted: in mid-2014, after the conflicts between blacks and the police in Ferguson, Missouri, the percentage that said race relations are good dropped." (link: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-state-of-race-relations-in-america/ )

Maybe you can explain how Ferguson might have changed the perception -- particularly among black Americans -- that race relations in this country have worsened.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Like I said, they stoked the flames. Funny how I can't find any polls on race relations since Trump's election. Hmmm. Maybe fake news wants to keep it under wraps.

Yes, that must be it. "Fake news" blah blah blah. Here's some fake news for you.
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"Seventy percent of Americans think race relations in the United States are poor, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds.

"The poll, conducted in the wake of a white nationalist protest in Charlottesville that left one woman dead, finds that 28% of people view race relations as “very bad,” while 42% of responders say they are “fairly” bad. Only 26% of those polled say race relations are good in the U.S.

"The current view of race relations nearly matches the poll’s record low of 74%, found last year following numerous fatal police shootings of unarmed black men. That figure marked the lowest viewpoint of race relations in the history of the poll.

"Of those surveyed, 25% said they approve of the way President Donald Trump has handled race relations in the U.S. Only 20% approved of Trump’s response to Charlottesville, in which the president placed blame on both white supremacists and counter-protestors for the violence, saying there were “very fine people on both sides.” Among black people, only 3% approved of the response."
http://time.com/4952612/race-relations-poll-charlottesville-donald-trump/
~~~
"On the eve of the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday, Americans express concern about race relations in the United States. Two out of three in the latest Economist/YouGov Poll say race relations are bad today. That’s higher than the percentage who thought that three years ago. "
https://today.yougov.com/topics/pol...cans-have-more-concerns-some-hope-about-race-
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"Nearly a year into Donald Trump’s presidency, a majority of Americans (60%) say his election has led to worse race relations in the United States. Just 8% say Trump’s election has led to better race relations, while 30% say it has not made a difference."
( http://www.people-press.org/2017/12...n-has-led-to-worse-race-relations-in-the-u-s/ )
~~~
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fi...-americans-pessimistic-race-relations-n803446
http://www.pollingreport.com/race.htm
http://apnorc.org/projects/Pages/Assessing-Race-Relations-under-the-Trump-Administration-.aspx

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You know what else you can't find, all the information the Trump administration has deleted from the official White House page. Just because you can't find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Can't find what you don't look for. In <15 seconds I found several polls taken since Trumpelthinskin was selected.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

You know what else you can't find, all the information the Trump administration has deleted from the official White House page.

Too bad. I go there all the time for information.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

I know you believe that, but that does not make it true. I clicked on the top story on your posted link to Bing.

"Positive opinions of race relations rose above 50 percent in the 2000s, and reached a high of 66 percent in April 2009, shortly after Barack Obama took office. But those positive assessments have not lasted: in mid-2014, after the conflicts between blacks and the police in Ferguson, Missouri, the percentage that said race relations are good dropped." (link: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-state-of-race-relations-in-america/ )

You confirm what I stated.

Maybe you can explain how Ferguson might have changed the perception -- particularly among black Americans --

Already did that. It's in #'s 124, 125.

that race relations in this country have worsened.

According to the linked polls I posted they worsened under Obama.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Yes, that must be it. "Fake news" blah blah blah. Here's some fake news for you.
~~~
"Seventy percent of Americans think race relations in the United States are poor, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds.

"The poll, conducted in the wake of a white nationalist protest in Charlottesville that left one woman dead, finds that 28% of people view race relations as “very bad,” while 42% of responders say they are “fairly” bad. Only 26% of those polled say race relations are good in the U.S.

"The current view of race relations nearly matches the poll’s record low of 74%, found last year following numerous fatal police shootings of unarmed black men. That figure marked the lowest viewpoint of race relations in the history of the poll.

"Of those surveyed, 25% said they approve of the way President Donald Trump has handled race relations in the U.S. Only 20% approved of Trump’s response to Charlottesville, in which the president placed blame on both white supremacists and counter-protestors for the violence, saying there were “very fine people on both sides.” Among black people, only 3% approved of the response."
http://time.com/4952612/race-relations-poll-charlottesville-donald-trump/
~~~
"On the eve of the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday, Americans express concern about race relations in the United States. Two out of three in the latest Economist/YouGov Poll say race relations are bad today. That’s higher than the percentage who thought that three years ago. "
https://today.yougov.com/topics/pol...cans-have-more-concerns-some-hope-about-race-
~~~
"Nearly a year into Donald Trump’s presidency, a majority of Americans (60%) say his election has led to worse race relations in the United States. Just 8% say Trump’s election has led to better race relations, while 30% say it has not made a difference."
( http://www.people-press.org/2017/12...n-has-led-to-worse-race-relations-in-the-u-s/ )
~~~
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fi...-americans-pessimistic-race-relations-n803446
http://www.pollingreport.com/race.htm
http://apnorc.org/projects/Pages/Assessing-Race-Relations-under-the-Trump-Administration-.aspx

Well kudos to you. I tried for 10 secs and couldn't. So race relations are bad in this country. They worsened under Obama and they're still bad apparently.
I don't care because my race relations are excellent and that's all I can do is my part. Sorry about yours.

 

[Gotcha68]

Too bad. I go there all the time for information.

Good for you. I didn't say there was no information to be found there.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Well kudos to you. I tried for 10 secs and couldn't. So race relations are bad in this country. They worsened under Obama and they're still bad apparently.
I don't care because my race relations are excellent and that's all I can do is my part. Sorry about yours.

Your conservative viewpoint of "I got mine, fuck you" is, again, duly noted. Thanks for playing.

 

[katzgar]

I don't care. Have you noticed the lack of BLM protests while trump's been in office? I have.
And what I've also noticed is how many blacks in my neck of the woods have been so vocally supportive of trump.
It's like I'm hearing the same stuff Kanye West says and its from blacks.
I don't think West is an anomaly.

you are an idiot

 

[CFM]

You know what else you can't find, all the information the Trump administration has deleted from the official White House page. Just because you can't find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That's not what a local judge told my homeowner's board when they tried to fine me because they claimed I did something against the covenants. The board claimed they had addressed others with a fine that had done the same thing yet couldn't provide proof of having done so.

 

[Truth Detector]

Maybe you can explain how Ferguson might have changed the perception -- particularly among black Americans -- that race relations in this country have worsened.

That's easy; the massive FAKE media narrative of "hands up don't shoot" which was built on a lie. You leftists have little shame anymore. I think it will become obvious how Americans really feel in November.

 

[Truth Detector]

you are an idiot

 

[Truth Detector]

Your conservative viewpoint of "I got mine, fuck you" is, again, duly noted. Thanks for playing.

There you go again; lying like an asshole. But alas, that's all low life's on the left have anymore. Lies, character attacks and deflections.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Your conservative viewpoint of "I got mine, fuck you" is, again, duly noted. Thanks for playing.

You're welcome.

 

[Ralph]

No surprise here... https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-americans-like-obama-so-much-better-than-trump/

Yep...that just why they voted Hillary into the white house for a 3rd Obama term. Oops! My Bad. Where do you idiots get this propaganda?

 

[PoliTalker]

Racism is wrong no matter who perpetrates or supports it, or even stays quiet about it. That was one of Obama's biggest mistakes. He tried to set a good example by not letting race control what he did; but by ignoring the problem it actually got worse. He needed to fight it but he didn't want to be known as the 'Black President who dealt with race issues.' Not his thing. But it was a big mistake. Because his election caused a great rise in hate group participation and activity. I don't think Obama ever faced up to that but he needed to. Because he didn't, it allowed racism to get worse during his terms.

Hello mak2,

I don't think race got worse during Obama's Presidency, the conservatives just talked about it more. Because, you know, there was a black guy in the white house. The rise was in RW hate.

Hello TTQ64,

I disagree

It totally got worse. The Southern Poverty Law Center tracked a huge increase in participation, number of, and activities of hate groups following the election of our first black president.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello aloysious,

In the end I couldn't care less what historians think any more. As the country gets more polarized it's just some liberal's opinion vs. a conservative's. There's little objectivity anymore.

There's ample objectivity. It simply doesn't get much attention. Capitalism has little use for objectivity. Balanced objectivity has little of the needed shock factor. If a presentation doesn't instill anger it doesn't sell advertising. Better to use some highly polarized material. That's what get's viewership and sells.

It's fortunate that we have someone undoing some of Obama's extremism and vision to reward personal irresponsibility and penalize personal responsibility. (Who in their right mind would do that with their own kids?)

That's fake news. Obama was not extreme. He was actually very close to centrist. The RWPM Right Wind Propaganda Machine labelled him as extremist, but that was not true. Obama had no, and never voiced any, 'vision to reward personal irresponsibility.' That's pure made-up propaganda. You're welcome to believe it if you like, but you should know that only people on the right believe that, and there is absolutely no supporting evidence. Obama never said that, nor did he advocate for it. Fake news.