solid proof of evolution

Thing1 said:
It's probably true that you heard about 2 people say that, and then implied that the entire "other side" is a bunch of idiots because of that.

Typical PMP stuff. It's why you never win any debates on here.
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Google it....you'll find dozens of people trying to explain how life could have begun....many more than 2.....

True, no one really knows how it truly began though...

Since its inception in 1924, the Primordial Soup Theory has gained a firm following in scientific circles, then evolution takes over.
 
NOVA said:
Google it....you'll find dozens of people trying to explain how life could have begun....many more than 2.....

True, no one really knows how it truly began though...

Since its inception in 1924, the Primordial Soup Theory has gained a firm following in scientific circles.
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Literally millions of people have speculated on and tried to explain how life could have begun.

But no one who knows anything have tried to frame that speculation in the context of "evolution."

You need to read what PMP was saying.
 
Thing1 said:
Literally millions of people have speculated on and tried to explain how life could have begun.

But no one who knows anything have tried to frame that speculation in the context of "evolution."

You need to read what PMP was saying.
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Within the multiverse all non-zero probability events can, will, and have happened so in effect the fact that random proteins came into alignment to form the building blocks of life, no matter how infinitesimal the likelihood, was a certainty.
 
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Thing1 said:
Literally millions of people have speculated on and tried to explain how life could have begun.

But no one who knows anything have tried to frame that speculation in the context of "evolution."

You need to read what PMP was saying.
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WE know the beginning of life and evolution are 2 different subjects....but their have been some that overlap the two into one event....

You point is noted though.....strictly speaking they are two different things....many have even speculated that the beginning of life occurred several times in different parts of the world....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
dude.....I doubt very much that he was saying computer coding and DNA were identical........the point was, as a computer operates in accordance with its coding, creation operates in accordance with DNA coding.....yes, DNA is far more complex, but creation is also far more complex than a computer.......just as the intelligent designer is far more than a computer hacker......
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There is no evidence of an intelligent designer, but through quantum physics and string theory we do have mathematical evidence (and through the LHC experimental evidence) of the infinite multiverse and within the multiverse all non-zero probability events can, will, and have happened making intelligent design advocates' claims regarding things; such as, the probabilities regarding the Goldilocks zone and the like, moot.
 
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PraiseKek said:
There is no evidence of an intelligent designer, but through quantum physics and string theory we do have mathematical evidence of the infinite multiverse and within the multiverse all non-zero probability events can, will, and have happened making intelligent design advocates' claims regarding things; such as, the probabilities regarding the Goldilocks zone and the like, moot.
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You should alert the Israelis.
 
PraiseKek said:
There is no evidence of an intelligent designer, but through quantum physics and string theory we do have mathematical evidence (and through the LHC experimental evidence) of the infinite multiverse and within the multiverse all non-zero probability events can, will, and have happened making intelligent design advocates' claims regarding things; such as, the probabilities regarding the Goldilocks zone and the like, moot.
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Is the existence of God a non-zero probability event lol?
 
I have asked this several times. Why would it be impossible for God to have created life and set the prameters for that life to evolve? There are other options beside's pure creationism and pure evolution.
 
Eagle Eye said:
I have asked this several times. Why would it be impossible for God to have created life and set the prameters for that life to evolve? There are other options beside's pure creationism and pure evolution.
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There is no evidence for the hypothesis that there is a god so we must accept the null hypothesis that there isn't until evidence to the contrary is presented, the burden of proof is on those making the positive claim that god exists.
 
CFM said:
Provide me the picture of MY actual great grandfather you claim I evolved from thousands of generations ago. Until then, no proof.
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To be fair, you personally are actually a convincing argument AGAINST evolution.
 
PraiseKek said:
Within the multiverse all non-zero probability events can, will, and have happened so in effect the fact that random proteins came into alignment to form the building blocks of life, no matter how infinitesimal the likelihood, was a certainty.
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I agree w/ the basics of that, but some in the scientific community actually think that w/ the primordial conditions, chances of proteins coming together in that way (given the vast timeframes involved) was actually somewhat commonplace, at least on a relative scale.

I think it helps to think about the logic of a multiverse, if it exists. Why would it exist? Is that a random event, or by design so that every aspect of the physical plane that can possibly be imagined can be experienced? And if it's the latter, you would want the conception of life to be easy & commonplace, and not rare.
 
PraiseKek said:
There is no evidence for the hypothesis that there is a god so we must accept the null hypothesis that there isn't until evidence to the contrary is presented, the burden of proof is on those making the positive claim that god exists.
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So if one cannot see or prove something it must not exist. Is that your hypothesis? Is space limitless? There are some things that can't be proven but we must accept. So just because we can't prove that God created life we do know it exists. To the best of my knowledge science can only assume how life started as there is no positive proof on how it happened. Of all the planets in our solar system why is this the only planet that life evolved on. No pal I believe there was a higher power at work here than just plain luck.
 
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