Question for Trump & Trumptards re: giving teachers guns....

Given the fact(s) that....

A) ...bullets don't always hit their intended target, or....

B) ...they often times pass through their target (in this case, soft human tissue) barely even slowing down, then strike some non-intended target (like another person) on the other side, and....

C) ....they are known to ricochet around, again, often striking some non-intended target, again, like another person....

1) ....tell us why you think it would be such a great idea to have even MORE bullets flying around inside a confined space, surrounded by concrete walls with metal lockers on them and steel door frames and various other hard surfaces for these bullets to bounce off of striking God knows what or WHO, and....

2).... who will be held LIABLE when autopsy reports conclude that someone's child or another adult school employee died or was permanently injured by a bullet that was fired, not from the gun of the attacker, but from the gun of a teacher or administrator who was returning fire, and lawsuits start being filed? The teacher/administrator themselves? The county/taxpayers?

Have any of you geniuses ever considered any of those highly likely scenarios?

Or do you think it will be like on TV where the bullets always either hit the bad guy and lodge in his innards or just fly harmlessly off into space where they magically disappear?

Just wondering.

If nothing else, it should be entertaining to see the creative bullshit nonsense replies the barrel strokers come up with.

Your post and questions are based on a hypothetical situation where the staff are active shooters and would be criminal shooters are not a threat, which would be a huge problem. Obviously, the risks of school staff shooting a gun at an active mass shooter are less than they would be if a mass shooter was shooting at an unarmed crowd, but in the hypothetical situation that you described where the school staff member is the mass shooter himself, it would be a disaster.

If there was an actual mass shooting taking place inside a school and a school staff member were to fire upon the mass shooter, there would certainly be a risk of harming an innocent student. This risk needs to be compared to the risk of how many more students would be in harm's way if the staff member was not armed, as well as the risk that schools can indeed hire disturbed people who could become the problem mass shooter themselves. Although I am a right winger who is on the side of gun rights, I would need to know that any school staff members who were going to be armed and in a position to defend my child have gone through extensive background checks and firearm training before I would be comfortable having them around my child. I will not automatically discard the risks of arming school staff just because I am a righty, but I can see the potential merits of arming them if the correct training and background checks were done. I am not sold yet, since I am not impressed with how schools are currently selecting their staff.
 
Putin must be having continuous orgasms watching the Democrats and progressives and CNN/MSNBC attack the President, the Constitution, our laws, and our freedoms 24-7 without letup....

you pinheads should demand to be put on his payroll for all work you're doing on his behalf....
 
I have an idea. Let's make schools gun free zones so those thinking about doing things like Florida will think twice about it then not do it.

Wait, that has happened. How did it work out?

What makes you think a mentally I'll person who is likely suicidal too, would be deterred by the knowledge that a few teachers are carrying guns?

Haven't you ever heard of people who try to commit "suicide by cop"? Why wouldn't a person like that try it with some other armed person, like a teacher?

What makes idiots like you and Dumpster Donnie think that a person who's so irrational to begin with, that they'd amass an arsenal of guns and ammo, take it into a public school and attempt to massacre children and teachers, would be fazed in the least by the possibility of getting shot by a teacher?

Maybe having armed teachers MIGHT reduce the total number of victims, but it would NOT end the occurrences of these incidents to begin with.

Apparently gun suckers feel that there is an acceptable number of dead children per shooting incident which must be why they'd rather kill the shooter after he's already killed some kids than take away the weapons he uses so he can't do the deed to begin with.

Because they can't let go of their own selfish, paranoid gun fetish.
 
Who else would have to agree to waive liability? Every parent and every relative of every student and every employee who regularly attends or works on a school campus throughout the district?

What about campus visitors? Would they have to sign a waiver too?

Since it's the school board itself who would be attempting to avoid liability with a waiver, who would the liability fall upon?

Would each individual teacher and/or administrator who took on the responsibility of being a gun toter, have to have each and every student and other employee agree to waive their right to sue for damages too?

So far this has been the closest any Trumptard has come to even attempting to address one of my questions.

The rest of the 'tard posts have been the usual and expected attempts at deflection.

No surprise at all.

cops get qualified immunity for persons killed or injured in the performance of their official duties. give teachers who are armed in school the same legal protections.
 
Clown questions from someone with so much hate for guns it clouds his NL thoughts.

The only thing that's clouding anyone's thoughts, is your knowledge that your wife was fucking black men before she met you.
 
Putin must be having continuous orgasms watching the Democrats and progressives and CNN/MSNBC attack the President, the Constitution, our laws, and our freedoms 24-7 without letup....

you pinheads should demand to be put on his payroll for all work you're doing on his behalf....

Possibly the reason they worked so hard to get him elected to begin with?

Even if so, it doesn't make those who voted for Trump any less useful idiots and tools of the Kremlin.

I wonder how they can look at themselves in the mirror knowing how they allowed themselves to be puppets who did Putin's bidding for the purpose of weakening America.
 
apparently the gun cowards feel the same way because there is no law you are willing to enact that takes the weapons away before being used.

Sure there is.

Enact strict laws that severely restrict the sale of guns.

Close the gun show loophole.

Make it illegal to privately sell a gun anywhere.

Take these undercover narcotics cops who set up drug buy stings and have them set up gun purchase
stings. If you get busted for privately selling a gun, even a legally obtained one, and go to prison.

Make it difficult and time consuming to obtain a gun and make the penalty for illegally selling one as harsh as importing large quantities of heroin.
 
Sure there is.

Enact strict laws that severely restrict the sale of guns.

Close the gun show loophole.

Make it illegal to privately sell a gun anywhere.

Take these undercover narcotics cops who set up drug buy stings and have them set up gun purchase
stings. If you get busted for privately selling a gun, even a legally obtained one, and go to prison.

Make it difficult and time consuming to obtain a gun and make the penalty for illegally selling one as harsh as importing large quantities of heroin.

Aren’t drugs illegal to buy and sell?

How’s that working out for us?
 
cops get qualified immunity for persons killed or injured in the performance of their official duties. give teachers who are armed in school the same legal protections.

Cops and cities/counties get sued all the time for wrongful death.

All a victims family would have to do is claim undue negligence on the part of the teacher who fired the shot that killed their relative.

The threat of a lawsuit alone would result in multimillion dollar out of court settlements.
 
Enact strict laws that severely restrict the sale of guns.
which does absolutely nothing for those out there now. how strict should they be?

Close the gun show loophole.
no such loophole exists

Make it illegal to privately sell a gun anywhere.
tell us how you enforce that

Take these undercover narcotics cops who set up drug buy stings and have them set up gun purchase
stings. If you get busted for privately selling a gun, even a legally obtained one, and go to prison.

Make it difficult and time consuming to obtain a gun and make the penalty for illegally selling one as harsh as importing large quantities of heroin.

so basically you're trying to do everything short of calling for an outright ban and confiscation so you can lie to the people and say you don't want guns banned. does that about cover it?
 
Cops and cities/counties get sued all the time for wrongful death.
yes, and a huge majority of the time the courts give the cops qualified immunity or the city settles the suit. Imagine a jury of parents who are happy that their kids are alive because a teacher stopped the killer before the damage was done to their own kids..........hows that trial work out?

All a victims family would have to do is claim undue negligence on the part of the teacher who fired the shot that killed their relative.

The threat of a lawsuit alone would result in multimillion dollar out of court settlements.
see the above.
 
Aren’t drugs illegal to buy and sell?

How’s that working out for us?

Yes, but they're still illegal, aren't they?

Are you suggesting that drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin should be legal just because they still get sold to and used by people?
 
Too bad I have most of the gunfuckers on ignore; I bet their answers though will just be the same old tired NRA talking points they have printed on little cards that come out after each mass murder event.

I don't get the "gun-free zone" argument. Most of what makes up living areas is a gun-free zone even if it's not spelled out on a sign. Hospitals, businesses, restaurants, stores... we (I) just take for granted that guns aren't going to be openly carried in these places. I know different states have different laws but it would unnerve me to see ordinary people (not cops) walking around openly carrying here.
 
DumberthanShit said:
yes, and a huge majority of the time the courts give the cops qualified immunity or the city settles the suit. Imagine a jury of parents who are happy that their kids are alive because a teacher stopped the killer before the damage was done to their own kids..........hows that trial work out?

see the above.

Bullshit scenario.

Huge out of court settlements.

Who pays?

Taxpayer.
 
Yes, but they're still illegal, aren't they?

Are you suggesting that drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin should be legal just because they still get sold to and used by people?

No, I’m suggesting it won’t stop the next school shooting, or the one after that.

Apart from the fact you’d be sending otherwise law abiding citizens to jail. Assuming they’d get caught. How is that going to work, btw?
 
which does absolutely nothing for those out there now. how strict should they be?

no such loophole exists

tell us how you enforce that

Liar.

so basically you're trying to do everything short of calling for an outright ban and confiscation so you can lie to the people and say you don't want guns banned. does that about cover it?

No.

I freely admit that I'd love to see guns banned.

Why would I lie about that?

IDGAF what idiots like you think.
 
No, I’m suggesting it won’t stop the next school shooting, or the one after that.

Apart from the fact you’d be sending otherwise law abiding citizens to jail. Assuming they’d get caught. How is that going to work, btw?

Yes it would because people like you are too scared of going to prison to break the law and sell your gun to someone who might allow it to fall into the hands of the next school shooter.

When the guns stop being freely sold, they become tougher to obtain by these goofballs.
 
private sales at gunshows don't require a background check because THAT was the compromise that the ATF gave in order to eliminate NICS access to kitchen table dealers. THAT is not a loophole, it is part of the law.

Semantics.

Change the law.

Close the loophole, which is EXACTLY what it is.

Ban all private sales by non-licensed sellers.

All gun sales must go through licensed dealers.
 
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