Billy Graham dead.
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That was a direct quote from the Bible.
Nope, I give the nod to ritual if others need that, and don't lie if I undertake (no pun intended) any duties promised. I sit there respectfully honoring the memory of the life.
But sure, if I was the only one concerned or if everyone were of like mind with me, we'd probably use the remains to provide notrogen for my lemon trees. No sense in degradation.
You are bending over too far backwards to be indignant. The last time I actually attended a funeral it was all I could do to control an urge to laugh. Unfortunately I was in the front row too.
This bible thumper pastor was waving that tome around at us all menacingly saying "THIS IS THE WORD OF GOD! I was like, uh, OK, isn't this supposed to be about that guy presumably lying in state and not
so much your delusions and power trip?
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on tape with Nixon capping on Jews
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religion does a lot of people a lot of good
there are a certain segment of the population that have brain wiring that prefers a religious type of mode to understand the Human life experience
yes I agree with the waste in a persons life it can produce
"don't really live fully because you will live again after you die"
can be kinda sad.
But maybe certain brains would not be able to live in a way that allows others to live freely if they did not have this particular wiring.
maybe some humans need this lasso around their lifes view
Another, perhaps the first big limousine reverend. I trust no reverend who accumulates enormous wealth off poor people. He drew the blueprint that many fake religious leaders followed to wealth and power. They are a huge group of disgusting people who are fleecing the flock. His wealth is estimated at 25 million. That a religious man? Show me a priest with 2 suits and I will show you a hypocrite. This is religion industrialized for profit. Yeah Billy, go play golf with presidents while the people giving you that money suffer.
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And that is your choice. To each their own, thankfully....
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Some facts about the life of evangelist Billy Graham
In more than 70 years Billy Graham, who died on Wednesday, preached to nearly 215 million people around the world. Here are some facts about Graham:
* Graham grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina, as a Presbyterian with dreams of playing professional baseball. His conversion to the Southern Baptist faith came in 1934 at the age of 16 when he heard a traveling evangelist in his hometown. A few years later he decided to become a preacher.
* Graham did not consider himself a strict interpreter of the Bible and preached a conservative, but not fundamentalist, Christianity.
* His breakthrough as an evangelist came in 1949 when a three-week tent campaign, or “crusade,” in Los Angeles was extended to eight weeks. In 1957 he preached nightly for 16 weeks in New York’s Madison Square Garden, according to the Graham organization.
* In 2002 Graham apologized after the release of secretly recorded tapes from 1972 in which he and President Richard Nixon agreed that liberal Jews dominated the U.S. news media. Graham was heard saying the Jewish “stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain.”
* Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state, said she first saw Graham preach in 1971 at a crusade in California that she attended at the invitation of then-boyfriend Bill Clinton. She said Graham later counseled her when she was first lady and dealing with her husband’s sex scandal involving White House intern Monica Lewinsky in 1998.
* In 1950 Harry Truman became the first president to pray with Graham in the White House. Truman was upset the next day when he saw a photo in which Graham had posed kneeling in prayer on the White House lawn and read that Graham had discussed their conversation with reporters.
* In order to avoid rumors of sexual or financial misconduct, Graham and his lieutenants agreed to what was known as the Modesto Manifesto in 1948. Meeting in a hotel in Modesto, California, they pledged to never be alone in a room with a woman other than their wives, and to keep honest financial records.
* Graham had a premonition about President John Kennedy’s trip to Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. In his autobiography, “Just as I Am,” he wrote that in mid-November he began to feel “such a burden” about the trip that he tried to warn Kennedy through a third party and tell him “Don’t go to Texas!” Graham said he was playing golf when he was told that Kennedy had been shot.
* Graham was listed on Gallup’s annual U.S. poll of most admired people 61 times, including in 2017, more than any other world figure. The person with the second most appearances on the list, which began in 1946, was Ronald Reagan with 31.
* The 1969 Miami Rock Music Festival featured the Grateful Dead, Santana, Canned Heat, Johnny Winter, Vanilla Fudge and, incongruously enough, Billy Graham. He said he wore a disguise one night so he could mingle and get a feel for the crowd, which he later said was characterized by “spiritual searching and emptiness.” The next morning he preached to the crowd, pointing out that Jesus was a non-conformist who could “fill their souls.”
* It seemed an unlikely honor when Graham was given a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1989 but the chairman of the selection committee said: “I can’t think of anybody in the world who has used radio, television and motion pictures in a more positive way.”
By Bill Trott
In more than 70 years Billy Graham, who died on Wednesday, preached to nearly 215 million people around the world. Here are some facts about Graham:
* Graham grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina, as a Presbyterian with dreams of playing professional baseball. His conversion to the Southern Baptist faith came in 1934 at the age of 16 when he heard a traveling evangelist in his hometown. A few years later he decided to become a preacher.
* Graham did not consider himself a strict interpreter of the Bible and preached a conservative, but not fundamentalist, Christianity.
* His breakthrough as an evangelist came in 1949 when a three-week tent campaign, or “crusade,” in Los Angeles was extended to eight weeks. In 1957 he preached nightly for 16 weeks in New York’s Madison Square Garden, according to the Graham organization.
* In 2002 Graham apologized after the release of secretly recorded tapes from 1972 in which he and President Richard Nixon agreed that liberal Jews dominated the U.S. news media. Graham was heard saying the Jewish “stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain.”
* Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state, said she first saw Graham preach in 1971 at a crusade in California that she attended at the invitation of then-boyfriend Bill Clinton. She said Graham later counseled her when she was first lady and dealing with her husband’s sex scandal involving White House intern Monica Lewinsky in 1998.
* In 1950 Harry Truman became the first president to pray with Graham in the White House. Truman was upset the next day when he saw a photo in which Graham had posed kneeling in prayer on the White House lawn and read that Graham had discussed their conversation with reporters.
* In order to avoid rumors of sexual or financial misconduct, Graham and his lieutenants agreed to what was known as the Modesto Manifesto in 1948. Meeting in a hotel in Modesto, California, they pledged to never be alone in a room with a woman other than their wives, and to keep honest financial records.
* Graham had a premonition about President John Kennedy’s trip to Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. In his autobiography, “Just as I Am,” he wrote that in mid-November he began to feel “such a burden” about the trip that he tried to warn Kennedy through a third party and tell him “Don’t go to Texas!” Graham said he was playing golf when he was told that Kennedy had been shot.
* Graham was listed on Gallup’s annual U.S. poll of most admired people 61 times, including in 2017, more than any other world figure. The person with the second most appearances on the list, which began in 1946, was Ronald Reagan with 31.
* The 1969 Miami Rock Music Festival featured the Grateful Dead, Santana, Canned Heat, Johnny Winter, Vanilla Fudge and, incongruously enough, Billy Graham. He said he wore a disguise one night so he could mingle and get a feel for the crowd, which he later said was characterized by “spiritual searching and emptiness.” The next morning he preached to the crowd, pointing out that Jesus was a non-conformist who could “fill their souls.”
* It seemed an unlikely honor when Graham was given a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1989 but the chairman of the selection committee said: “I can’t think of anybody in the world who has used radio, television and motion pictures in a more positive way.”
By Bill Trott
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link to your claimed statistics
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99 with Parkinson's--that guy was probably long past ready to exit stage right.
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I don't know anyone personally who doesn't believe in a god of some type. I don't think there's anyone posting here who doesn't, when all said and done. They've just given up and that's the reasoning they'll offer. No god...
[h=1]Mike Huckabee declares reports of Billy Graham's death "Fake News"[/h]
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/mike-huckabee-billy-grahams-death-fake-news-hes-alive-ever-heaven/
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R), an ordained Baptist preacher, insisted on Wednesday that the death of televangelist Billy Graham was “fake news” because the holy man will live on forever in Heaven.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/mike-huckabee-billy-grahams-death-fake-news-hes-alive-ever-heaven/
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R), an ordained Baptist preacher, insisted on Wednesday that the death of televangelist Billy Graham was “fake news” because the holy man will live on forever in Heaven.
Same reason there are more local oafs than Einsteins. Same reason Quiet Riot gets played more than Rite of Spring. Dumb answrs are easy, truth is complex and difficult. Sweet lies are easy to tell, hard truthes hard to tell.
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god believers just don't understand they are not the only people on earth
I don't want to take away anyone's hope, but I refuse to be dishonest and affirmatively blow smoke up anyone's ass. There is simply no evidence to support a case for a diety,
much less one that gives a shit for us or provides a do over or happyland. If people can cope with their mortality better by denying it, so be it. Problem is right wing fundy
christians are the exact type who make living life intolerable for many outgroups. They don't just think their select KLAN is gpoing to heaven, they condemn groups who
don't conform to their strictures of behavior to hell. In the name of the "prince of peace" What a bad dark joke.
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You're a perfect example of someone who has just given up to worship the voices in your head....which is, of course, your right.
Stay right here, behind your keyboard. TIA
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A 2013 poll by UPI/Harris showed that three-quarters of U.S. adults say they believe in God, down from 82 percent in 2005, 2007 and 2009. Just under 2-in-10 U.S. adults described themselves as very religious, with an additional 4-in-10 describing themselves as somewhat religious down from 49 percent in 2007. Twenty-three percent of Americans identified themselves as not at all religious, nearly double the 12 percent reported in 2007.[48]
The 2015 Pew Religious Landscape survey reported that as of 2014, 22.8% of the American population is religiously unaffiliated, atheists made up 3.1% and agnostics made up 4% of the US population.[49]
A survey based on a self-selected sample of biological and physical scientists of the National Academy of Sciences in the United States found that 7% believed in the existence of God, 72.2% did not, and 20.8% were agnostic or had doubts.[50] Eugenie Scott argued that there are methodological issues in the study, including ambiguity in the questions. A study on leading scientists in the US, with clearer wording and allowing for a broader concept of "god", concluded that 40% of prominent scientists believe in god.[51]
In 1916, 1,000 leading American scientists were randomly chosen from American Men of Science and 41.8% believed God existed, 41.5% disbelieved, and 16.7% had doubts/did not know; however when the study was replicated 80 years later using American Men and Women of Science in 1996, results were very much the same with 39.3% believing God exists, 45.3% disbelieved, and 14.5% had doubts/did not know.[52]
A 2014 survey by David Chalmers and David Bourget on nearly 1,000 professional philosophers from 99 leading departments of philosophy shows that 73% considered themselves as atheists, 13% considered themselves as theist, and 13% as something else