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need any more evidence they are right wing republican asshats
Civil Libertarians?
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need any more evidence they are right wing republican asshats
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_liberties_in_the_United_States
Civil liberties in the United States are certain unalienable rights retained by (as opposed to privileges granted to) citizens of the United States under the Constitution of the United States, as interpreted and clarified by the Supreme Court of the United States and lower federal courts.[1] Civil liberties are simply defined as individual legal and constitutional protections from entities more powerful than an individual, for example, parts of the government, other individuals, or corporations. The liberties explicitly defined, make up the Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy.[2] There are also many liberties of people not defined in the Constitution, as stated in the Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The extent of civil liberties and the periphery of the population of the United States who had access to these liberties has expanded over time. For example, the Constitution did not originally define who was eligible to vote, allowing each state to determine who was eligible. In the early history of the U.S., most states allowed only white male adult property owners to vote (about 6% of the population).[3][4][5] The 'Three-Fifths Compromise' allowed the southern slaveholders to consolidate power and maintain slavery in America for eighty years after the ratification of the Constitution.[6] And the Bill of Rights had little impact on judgements by the courts for the first 130 years after ratification.[7]
Civil liberties in the United States are certain unalienable rights retained by (as opposed to privileges granted to) citizens of the United States under the Constitution of the United States, as interpreted and clarified by the Supreme Court of the United States and lower federal courts.[1] Civil liberties are simply defined as individual legal and constitutional protections from entities more powerful than an individual, for example, parts of the government, other individuals, or corporations. The liberties explicitly defined, make up the Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy.[2] There are also many liberties of people not defined in the Constitution, as stated in the Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The extent of civil liberties and the periphery of the population of the United States who had access to these liberties has expanded over time. For example, the Constitution did not originally define who was eligible to vote, allowing each state to determine who was eligible. In the early history of the U.S., most states allowed only white male adult property owners to vote (about 6% of the population).[3][4][5] The 'Three-Fifths Compromise' allowed the southern slaveholders to consolidate power and maintain slavery in America for eighty years after the ratification of the Constitution.[6] And the Bill of Rights had little impact on judgements by the courts for the first 130 years after ratification.[7]
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Literally, the dictionary definition says otherwise.
pro·hib·it
prəˈhibit,prōˈhibit/Submit
verb
formally forbid (something) by law, rule, or other authority.
Google it, smartass. Prevent means to prevent.
How about you meditate about the fact that you're a RINO who believes in big government and runaway spending-wasting taxpayer money enforcing his views on everybody.
Past convictions. As in already convicted and served his punishment for it.
So the sale of weed deserves a life sentence? There's rapists in prison for less time than that. That is fucking ridiculous. Hopefully, even you can admit that.
In both cases, it wasn't an isolated case where the person had never done anything before and the hammer was dropped. They had both proven they can't follow the law.[/QUOTE]
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need any more proof this poster is a right wing shill
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Deflection, nice.
Need any more evidence you are a tool for the wealthy? And a hypocrite for accusing others of that?
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Are they?
Is that why Obama renewed the Patriot Act? And kept marijuana as a schedule 1 drug? You're a joke.
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TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
It's not, it's about him being a hypocrite (much like you) by espousing certain views then turning around and going directly against those views. I see him whining on other forums about legitimate social spending being a waste of taxpayer money and how he's a Republican and he wants a conservative budget, but yet he wants to spend billions of dollars trying to put me in prison for smoking a joint. Not to mention the wall he supports building. He's a joke. Much like you are for calling people tools of the wealthy when you voted for a corporate mouthpiece.
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I did look it up. It does day what you posted but you left parts out. It also says to prevent or make impossible. https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...69i59l2j0l4.1416j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
You're the one that said it was inside your home. How about you look up the word "lie" and see how that fits you. While you're at it, continue to buy it OUTSIDE your home and hopefully you'll get arrested and spend some time in a cage like the animal you are.
YOU'RE the one that said the pot is what got them the life sentence. If pot was the only thing Brooker had done, even the judge said it wouldn't have been the same sentence. Meditate on the fact that without the prior convictions, you couldn't have used him as an example.
It wasn't just the sale. It was a HISTORY of violations related to selling, using, growing, etc.
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Here, allow me to bring this conversation down to your cognitive level:
you are a tool of the wealthy
you lie!!!!
nobody believes your lies
you support candidates like hillary that support the wealthy
she was the director of Walmart
she got millions of dollars from wealthy donors
your party is bought and paid for
your corporate shills.
you are a liar and a hypocrite
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Yep. As I recall the DOJ investigated and it ended up forgiving thousands and thousands of dollars of fines levied for relatively minor infractions.
And in other good Ferguson news, people of color ran for office and were elected, so it's not an all-white city council any more.
https://www.fergusoncity.com/171/Council-Members
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Yup, also. As in my definition is right as well. I am completely correct and accurate to say that I am prohibited from smoking weed despite the fact that I do it.
I do do it inside my home. Fiscal liberals like you want to waste money trying to toss me in prison for years for growing my pot so yea imma drive out a mile or two to get it. Deal with it.
And two of those examples it was just pot that got them life sentences. The other two they were convicted of a life sentence during a trial for pot. Yea, he had previous convictions for a robbery but that shouldn't have mattered in a case about pot. He had already been convicted of the other crime and served his punishment for it.
I like how you continue to deflect from the fact I outed you as a big government fiscal liberal.
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Yup, also. As in my definition is right as well. I am completely correct and accurate to say that I am prohibited from smoking weed despite the fact that I do it.
I do do it inside my home. Fiscal liberals like you want to waste money trying to prevent me from growing my pot so yea imma drive out a mile or two to get it. Deal with it.
And two of those examples it was just pot that got them life sentences. The other two they were convicted of a life sentence during a trial for pot. Yea, he had previous convictions but that shouldn't have mattered in a case about a pot.
I like how you continue to deflect from the fact I outed you as a big government fiscal liberal.[/QUOTE]
Since you left parts out of your definition, you're not completely accurate.
No one is preventing you from growing it. You're whining because someone might say something to you about it.
No it wasn't just pot. Even the judge said it wasn't.
History matters. It appears that those foolish enough not to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
That you think I'm a fiscal Liberal proves what you've been smoking is harming you. Keep smoking it. Maybe it will do you in.
Trippy, I was putting my safety on the line arguing for the legalization of weed way before it was popular...and way before it was as safe doing so as it is now.
One doesn't have to be a libertarian to advocate for that...and advocating for the decriminalization of weed doesn't require becoming a libertarian.
I consider American conservatism to be a cancer on the American body politic...and have even less regard for Libertarianism. Both are weak excuses for political naivete'.
Here's a link to an op ed sized piece I wrote for the NY Times...back in 1989.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/04/o...verybody-s-problem-a-new-medicine-001189.html
One doesn't have to be a libertarian to advocate for that...and advocating for the decriminalization of weed doesn't require becoming a libertarian.
I consider American conservatism to be a cancer on the American body politic...and have even less regard for Libertarianism. Both are weak excuses for political naivete'.
Here's a link to an op ed sized piece I wrote for the NY Times...back in 1989.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/04/o...verybody-s-problem-a-new-medicine-001189.html
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ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
The discussion was about civil issues, not economic ones. I agree with you that when it comes to economics, libertarian ideals fall flat on their face. That being said, I agree with them on some issues regarding civil issues. I.e., keep religion out of government. Stop punishing victim-less crimes (smoking weed, prostitution, women being topless in public) with prison time. Get rid of privatized prisons. Allow self- and physician-assisted euthanasia.
An example of government over-reach in a red state: A few years ago in the St. Louis area an extremely well-endowed woman visiting a waterpark with her kids had a wardrobe malfunction that was witnessed by several other visitors to the park. She replaced the missing twins and went about enjoying the family time. A busybody, however, told the park mgmt that she and her kids were horribly offended and furthermore the woman's bathing suit was too generously displaying her attributes and teenage boys were staring. The park mgmt asked the woman to put on a different top or otherwise cover up. She refused. They told her to leave. She refused. They called the cops. She was taken away in handcuffs and charged with trespassing.
No one was harmed exc. for the feels of the offended busybody.