Trump Administration moves to end legal marijuana.

TTQ64 said:
So President Obama is why we don't have legalized pot?
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I'm not suggesting that. What I am factually saying is that Obama opposed it.

White House: Obama Still Opposed To Marijuana Legalization
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/obama-marijuana-legalization_n_4647523.html

You and I have different opinions on Obama on how effective he was, and how effective he could have been.

Undoubtedly Obama smoked a lot of weed in his younger years, yet he rose to become the POTUS, the leader of the free world. If there was ANYONE who could speak to the need to decriminalize marijuana, it would be the former co-founder of the Choom Gang, Barack Obama .. which wasn't really a gang as much as a pot-smoking club.

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... but he played it safe.

I do recognize the backlash that would come if the first black president with a history of smoking weed moves to legalize it .. but this issue is typical of Obama who chose to play it safe rather than doing the right thing .. which he also demonstrated on healthcare, opting for a conservative republican plan rather than the more effective Medicare for All plan.
 
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Thing1 said:
This shouldn't be a complicated issue for conservatives who profess to be for smaller government & states rights. If you find yourself supporting this measure by Sessions, you may want to step back and examine your views - and ask yourself if you're just programmed to defend anything this admin does now.

The marijuana issue has been decided by the people & the states. It should be over. What Sessions is doing is no different from the 'active judiciary' many of you complain about when it comes to issues like gay marriage.

For ANYONE who values liberty, this is a no brainer - Sessions is out of bounds here. He is opposing the will of the people, period.
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The stupidity of the above is astounding. Sessions is the attorney general of the US. It is a federal law that he is referencing. It would be 'active judiciary' if he were to state that the law should not be followed. It is up to congress to change the federal law. Not the AG. He has discretion as to which crimes to focus his department on. He is passing that discretion on to the state AG's.

There are only 7 states that have legalized rec use of mj. SEVEN. So no, it has not been decided by the people. I live in CO, the benefits to the state far outweigh the negatives. There is next to zero chance our AG goes after the local businesses that have been set up and that provide so much revenue to the state.
 
TTQ64 said:
I meant in 2009
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They had complete control of Congress and the White House for 2009-2010. Now if you are asking if they had super majorities in both houses of Congress that could over ride a potential fillabuster, then that is another question. But that too would assume that the passage would have no republican support.
 
Thing1 said:
If you're as pro-liberty as you say, you should oppose Sessions anti-states rights measure.
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Sessions has stated that he intends to et individual Attorney Generals make the decisions, so that's in effect state-by-state. But my point in posting here was to point out how liberals are now all for states rights, and obvious code-speak for racism.
 
blackascoal said:
I'm not suggesting that. What I am factually saying is that Obama opposed it.

White House: Obama Still Opposed To Marijuana Legalization
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/obama-marijuana-legalization_n_4647523.html

You and I have different opinions on Obama on how effective he was, and how effective he could have been.

Undoubtedly Obama smoked a lot of weed in his younger years, yet he rose o become the POTUS, the leader of the free world. If there was ANYONE who could speak to the need to decriminalize marijuana, it would be the former co-founder of the Choom Gang, Barack Obama .. which wasn't really a gang as much as a pot-smoking club.

Early-Obama-The-Choom-Gan-008-620x433.jpg


... but he played it safe.

I do recognize that backlash that would come if the first black president with a history of smoking weed moves to legalize it .. but this issue is typical of Obama who chose to play it safe rather than doing the right thing .. which he also demonstrated on healthcare, opting for a conservative republican plan rather than the more effective Medicare for All plan.
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We actually disagree on a lot of things....wink.

He opposed gay marriage as well, look how that turned out.

When his party and it's constituents want to legalize weed and single payer, it will happen.

One thing is for sure, it will never happen if we wait on the racist right and keep putting them in charge. Progress comes for the democrat party. Instead of voting 3rd party, vote out the blue dog republican plant dems and replace them with progressive so we can move forward.

Otherwise I'm inclined to believe America doesn't want to advance.
 
Superfreak said:
They had complete control of Congress and the White House for 2009-2010. Now if you are asking if they had super majorities in both houses of Congress that could over ride a potential fillabuster, then that is another question. But that too would assume that the passage would have no republican support.
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They never had complete control to pass any legislation they wanted.

It's simply right wing bs.
 
Superfreak said:
The stupidity of the above is astounding. Sessions is the attorney general of the US. It is a federal law that he is referencing. It would be 'active judiciary' if he were to state that the law should not be followed. It is up to congress to change the federal law. Not the AG. He has discretion as to which crimes to focus his department on. He is passing that discretion on to the state AG's.

There are only 7 states that have legalized rec use of mj. SEVEN. So no, it has not been decided by the people. I live in CO, the benefits to the state far outweigh the negatives. There is next to zero chance our AG goes after the local businesses that have been set up and that provide so much revenue to the state.
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That's just denial.

Stop calling me stupid, when you aren't thinking.
 
Superfreak said:
The stupidity of the above is astounding. Sessions is the attorney general of the US. It is a federal law that he is referencing. It would be 'active judiciary' if he were to state that the law should not be followed. It is up to congress to change the federal law. Not the AG. He has discretion as to which crimes to focus his department on. He is passing that discretion on to the state AG's.

There are only 7 states that have legalized rec use of mj. SEVEN. So no, it has not been decided by the people. I live in CO, the benefits to the state far outweigh the negatives. There is next to zero chance our AG goes after the local businesses that have been set up and that provide so much revenue to the state.
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correct. from what I understand their is no guiding federal memo ( like the Cole memo)-it's been rescinded.
 
Covfefe said:
Sessions should be using his time and money to focus on the opioid crises, not going after marijuana.
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Opioid deaths are down over 25% in states where pot is legal.

Imagine being someone who relies on medication for pain, and having an admin that is aggressively going after both opioids and marijuana. What do they expect people to use...aspirin?

No common sense in this policy move. Just paranoia.
 
TTQ64 said:
We actually disagree on a lot of things....wink.

He opposed gay marriage as well, look how that turned out.

When his party and it's constituents want to legalize weed and single payer, it will happen.

One thing is for sure, it will never happen if we wait on the racist right and keep putting them in charge. Progress comes for the democrat party. Instead of voting 3rd party, vote out the blue dog republican plant dems and replace them with progressive so we can move forward.

Otherwise I'm inclined to believe America doesn't want to advance.
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I agree with much of that, especially that progress comes from the Democratic Party.

I've seen the err of my ways and have abandoned all thoughts of 3rd party challenges. The Democratic Party is the only option for people of color and we must demand changes from within.

Other than that ..

:kiss2: :0)
 
Thing1 said:
Opioid deaths are down over 25% in states where pot is legal.

Imagine being someone who relies on medication for pain, and having an admin that is aggressively going after both opioids and marijuana. What do they expect people to use...aspirin?

No common sense in this policy move. Just paranoia.
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agreed. Patient access is key in both cases. both analgesics are threatened by fed over-reach ( as usual)
 
Thing1 said:
I opposed Obamacare when it passed - it was way too rushed. Should have been incremental change.

Do I want it "dismantled" now? Unfortunately, that would hurt a lot of people. So no - I wouldn't "dismantle" it the way you're portraying, but it definitely needs to be changed.

You need to step back on this Sessions issue. You can't be a small gov't conservative & support this.
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You think it was rushed?

Obama and the dems put 140 Republican amendments into the Affordable Care Act. republicans had a say in the drafting of the bill, unfortunatly. What you are saying about it being rushed isn't exactly true. The ACA was debated in a bipartisan fashion in congress and in public hearings for more than a year. The hearings included experts in the healthcare field. The Republicans participated throughout the entire process. The Democrats compromised mightily on the bill with more than 100 Republican amendments to the original bill. After all that back and forth for months and up to a year, only one Republican in the house voted for the ACA.

Americans tout bipartisanship and compromise as if it's the best thing since slice bread, at least they do when the dems are in office.
 
Right said:
ROFL. Libs pro-freedom. ROFL

That's why you cried when Trump removed the ObamaCare mandate.
That's why you love gun laws.
That's why you love big GovCo.
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Prove any of these accusations.
You can't.
I am pro gun, anti government and anti insurance.
Prove elsewise or be forever known as a liar.
 
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