The irony of it all is off the charts

Not so much.

Obama told the Russians he would be more flexible after he got re-elected. Flynn could have asked the Russians to abstain in the UN anti-Isreal vote until Trump got in—-and it would be PRECISELY the same thing. Or they could have beer discussing how to go after ISIS.

Was it you that mentioned irony?
Incorrect. A sitting POTUS telling a Russian that he could speak more freely about a touchy defense issue after an election, is not the same as a campaign colluding with Russia in order to get them to aid in the election process.
 
Not so much.

Obama told the Russians he would be more flexible after he got re-elected. Flynn could have asked the Russians to abstain in the UN anti-Isreal vote until Trump got in—-and it would be PRECISELY the same thing. Or they could have beer discussing how to go after ISIS.

Was it you that mentioned irony?

Another conservative error, Obama was President when he made that comment, his Government was in charge, Flynn was not nor was his candidate yet President, huge difference
 
Hillary got off only because Comey let her off.

It wasn’t even in his job description and he had to make it up as he went, to do it. To this day, I’m dumbfounded by it.

you have been found dumb


there was nothing to charge her with asshole
 
Now how do you know that? Mueller has been at it six months, less time than the average criminal prosecution, and already we have seen four Trump campaign figures fall, one with very close ties to the President and campaign now apparently spilling the beans

I am not saying that there is collusion, nearly impossible to prove, but they are not out to prove collusion, rather Russia's influence in the election, the campaign may or may not be directly involved, but to state nothing exists at this point is inane
no. the SC's charter IS collusion "links and coordination.
 
Hillary got off only because Comey let her off.

It wasn’t even in his job description and he had to make it up as he went, to do it. To this day, I’m dumbfounded by it.

So what in the hell were those million dollar redundant umpteen GOP Congressional Committees doing all that time?

It's not all on Comey
 
He lied, because the trump transition team plotted with Russia over the sanctions. I think the real question is going to be 'when did trump's team start colluding with Russia?"

Plotted? To do what? Trump even publicly acknowledged Putin in an open Tweet that he was grateful Putin wasn't going to get his boxers in a bunch over the sanctions. Nothing to see here.
 
Another conservative error, Obama was President when he made that comment, his Government was in charge, Flynn was not nor was his candidate yet President, huge difference
no again!
this was during the transition/ to was normative to talk to other governments -in Fact Flynn talked to 12
 
Plotted? To do what? Trump even publicly acknowledged Putin in an open Tweet that he was grateful Putin wasn't going to get his boxers in a bunch over the sanctions. Nothing to see here.

he also publically asked Putin to give him hilarys emails
 
Incorrect. A sitting POTUS telling a Russian that he could speak more freely about a touchy defense issue after an election, is not the same as a campaign colluding with Russia in order to get them to aid in the election process.

The election was OVER, a President-elect can talk to anybody about anything in the world. There's no collusion AFTER an election.
 
Its where ever the facts take him fool
but based off the charter of collusion.

granted Special Counsels are an abomination to due process -operating on what is essentially a general warrant-
but the specifics are collusion and maters related
 
Plotted? To do what? Trump even publicly acknowledged Putin in an open Tweet that he was grateful Putin wasn't going to get his boxers in a bunch over the sanctions. Nothing to see here.
don't get him confused..this is what they live for..
you are correct. the only thing wrong would be a quid pro quo that corrupted the election.
Otherwise there is no collusion.
 
Not so much.

Obama told the Russians he would be more flexible after he got re-elected. Flynn could have asked the Russians to abstain in the UN anti-Isreal vote until Trump got in—-and it would be PRECISELY the same thing. Or they could have beer discussing how to go after ISIS.
Was it you that mentioned irony?

How is a sitting President discussing sanctions and so forth with another country even slightly equivalent to a private citizen (Flynn) doing the same at the behest of an unelected candidate?
 
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