No statue for Robert E Lee but black ex-con Marion Barry gets one.

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How can you explain this other than pure pro-black racism.?

http://www.wmal.com/2017/10/27/dc-council-expected-to-approve-statue-of-former-mayor-marion-barry/

oct 27 2017 Plans to erect a statue of former DC Mayor Marion Barry outside the Wilson Building are moving forward.

Vince Gray, the councilmember for Ward 7 and former Mayor of DC, said he expects the council vote to be unanimous in favor of installing the statue. “It’s the right thing to do,” Gray said.

Marion Barry served three separate times on the City Council, and a total of four terms as Mayor over a span of four decades. He was also known for his work in the civil rights movement. He was long hailed as a champion of the city’s poor, and was known for his programs creating city jobs for residents.

However, Barry’s legal troubles were just as much a part of his legacy. During his second term as mayor, he was captured in an FBI sting at a local hotel after he was caught on video smoking crack cocaine. He was convicted of cocaine possession and served a prison sentence. In later years, he was caught up in a series of legal problems involving tax evasion, traffic violations and conflict of interest accusations.

Barry died on November 23, 2014 at the age of 78.
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Mason Michaels said:
Robert E Lee should have been hanged for treason!America has had no bigger enemy,cost thousands of Americans their lives.
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Treasson?? HAHAHA. The south merely seceded just like the 13 colonies seceded from england. Lincoln wouldn't tolerate that and started the war. As Jefferson Davis said, " we just want to be left alone." You are a historical ignoramus.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Treasson?? HAHAHA. The south merely seceded just like the 13 colonies seceded from england. Lincoln wouldn't tolerate that and started the war. As Jefferson Davis said, " we just want to be left alone." You are a historical ignoramus.
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Do you think loyalty to England is the same as loyalty to America?

Please don't lie about which country started the Civil War. The CSA attacked America first, and seized US property.
 
Threedee said:
Do you think loyalty to England is the same as loyalty to America?

Please don't lie about which country started the Civil War. The CSA attacked America first, and seized US property.
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Actually, there is something of a real analogy between the colonies leaving England and the south leaving the US. The biggest difference is that the colonies (with France helping) won the war.

We need to be fair - the south's intention was not 'treason' or to attack the US - the conflict at the start was simply over a US fort in the now-seceded south. As I recall, Lincoln orchestrated where the south would attack it, so they fired the first shot.

The debate over states' rights to secede is not black and white, one-sided - there's a real case for secession and self-determination as a right. The Kurds and the Catalonians are fighting that same battle right now.

The condemnation of the south lies mostly in their support of slavery - and arguably their willingness to see hundreds of thousands killed in their desire to secede, but that cuts both ways. There is blame to be had as well in the north treating the south
unfairly and abusing their majority power in the government - not entirely unlike the English abusing their power over the colonies.

The South never wanted to rule the north, and I think because they simply wanted to leave, that the label of traitor is either the wrong word or at least needs a big asterisk. But they've done a lot of harm to the country with their politics since the civil war.
 
Lee was a traitor.
He went to war against the nation that trained him... the nation that he had sworn allegiance to...
The man had no honor.

He should have been hung.

Grant was far too soft.

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He was convicted of cocaine possession and served a prison sentence. In later years, he was caught up in a series of legal problems involving tax evasion, traffic violations and conflict of interest accusations.
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shows how whacked out DC residents are "it's the right thing to do" to honor a criminal/ ex -prisoner
 
Threedee said:
Do you think loyalty to England is the same as loyalty to America?

Please don't lie about which country started the Civil War. The CSA attacked America first, and seized US property.
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Wanting to leave is wanting to leave. Why are you opposed to the Southern states wanting to leave and be their own country?

That you acknowledge there was a Confederate States of America invalidates your claim that they attacked first. They were defending something you admit existed where foreign troops wouldn't leave.
 
anatta said:
He was convicted of cocaine possession and served a prison sentence. In later years, he was caught up in a series of legal problems involving tax evasion, traffic violations and conflict of interest accusations.
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shows how whacked out DC residents are "it's the right thing to do" to honor a criminal/ ex -prisoner
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He was re-elected despite people knowing all of this and AFTER his conviction.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Lee was a traitor.
He went to war against the nation that trained him... the nation that he had sworn allegiance to...
The man had no honor.

He should have been hung.

Grant was far too soft.

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Lee's Virginia wanted to leave the Union. What was the problem with that? He fought BACK after being told no.
 
Craig234 said:
Actually, there is something of a real analogy between the colonies leaving England and the south leaving the US. The biggest difference is that the colonies (with France helping) won the war.

We need to be fair - the south's intention was not 'treason' or to attack the US - the conflict at the start was simply over a US fort in the now-seceded south. As I recall, Lincoln orchestrated where the south would attack it, so they fired the first shot.

The debate over states' rights to secede is not black and white, one-sided - there's a real case for secession and self-determination as a right. The Kurds and the Catalonians are fighting that same battle right now.

The condemnation of the south lies mostly in their support of slavery - and arguably their willingness to see hundreds of thousands killed in their desire to secede, but that cuts both ways. There is blame to be had as well in the north treating the south
unfairly and abusing their majority power in the government - not entirely unlike the English abusing their power over the colonies.

The South never wanted to rule the north, and I think because they simply wanted to leave, that the label of traitor is either the wrong word or at least needs a big asterisk. But they've done a lot of harm to the country with their politics since the civil war.
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Idiots like Threedee make it out as if the 11 southern States of the Confederacy fought in order to leave. They fought when their desire to leave was met with a bunch of whiners saying no. It was no different than someone wanting to leave another person's house and the person telling them they can't.
 
Craig234 said:
The South never wanted to rule the north, and I think because they simply wanted to leave, that the label of traitor is either the wrong word or at least needs a big asterisk.
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Of course. It wasn't really a "civil" war since you didn't have two sides fighting for control of the country. The south just wanted to secede and form their own country.
 
CFM said:
Idiots like Threedee make it out as if the 11 southern States of the Confederacy fought in order to leave. They fought when their desire to leave was met with a bunch of whiners saying no. It was no different than someone wanting to leave another person's house and the person telling them they can't.
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The south wanted the freedom to keep a third of their citizens in bondage.
 
anatta said:
He was convicted of cocaine possession and served a prison sentence. In later years, he was caught up in a series of legal problems involving tax evasion, traffic violations and conflict of interest accusations.
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shows how whacked out DC residents are "it's the right thing to do" to honor a criminal/ ex -prisoner
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Another mortal wound to irony
 
CFM said:
Idiots like Threedee make it out as if the 11 southern States of the Confederacy fought in order to leave. They fought when their desire to leave was met with a bunch of whiners saying no. It was no different than someone wanting to leave another person's house and the person telling them they can't.
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That's a false analogy in the other direction. 'Leaving their house' doesn't include 'leaving to own slaves'. And while admittedly the civil war was not primarily about ending slavery, is also doesn't include the idea of a nation that would be divided, the legal and economic implications of a nation split in half, even the question whether the two halves could defend themselves from foreign threats. It leaves out the real issues in the situation.
 
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