Jerry Jones and the entire Cowboys team take the knee

Covfefe said:
They aren't shitting on the flag, protest is a part of our heritage, Jefferson encouraged it. It is what makes our nation great. When you put the American flag before American people is when flag worship becomes dangerous. The flag is a symbol and I don't worship it.
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Let me simplify. When a bunch of overpaid ingrates bite the hand that feeds them and publicly shits on the flag and country of those who pay for their opulent lifestyles - they will get what they deserve.

The government cannot suppress anyone's free speech, but private business have a choice in what they tolerate.

The owners and coaches will long regret they sided with a few fringe lunatics against their entire fan base. Gotta love the free market.

AAL -- Anti-American League
 
noise said:
would you PLEASE MAKE UP YOUR MIND?? as to what this "is"
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It has nothing to do with 'making up one's mind'. You see, every time the Nazi in the White House takes to Twitter, a number of things happen.

He has us on the brink of nuclear with with N.Korea, because of his need to distract from the fact that he's just an old, out of shape, impotent junkfood addict. As such, he overcompensates with his tiny little fingers, and creates issues that were never there before.

The solidarity you now see in the NFL, is a direct message to trump. Ironic that he just handed Kap an NFL contract because of his big mouth. Before his latest Twitter tirade, no teams were interested in taking a chance on how fans might react to the hiring of Kaepernick. Ironic, because each week shows us more inept QB play around the league.
 
Althea said:
It has nothing to do with 'making up one's mind'. You see, every time the Nazi in the White House takes to Twitter, a number of things happen.

He has us on the brink of nuclear with with N.Korea, because of his need to distract from the fact that he's just an old, out of shape, impotent junkfood addict. As such, he overcompensates with his tiny little fingers, and creates issues that were never there before.

The solidarity you now see in the NFL, is a direct message to trump. Ironic that he just handed Kap an NFL contract because of his big mouth. Before his latest Twitter tirade, no teams were interested in taking a chance on how fans might react to the hiring of Kaepernick. Ironic, because each week shows us more inept QB play around the league.
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The typical hate filled leftist....that believes in unity. You demonstrate Fascism by calling those who oppose your opinion Nazi's. Only in America is up down, white/black and north/south....according to the left. While history documents the fact that the democrat party better mirror's the Nazi party...who were socialists by definition and action.
 
Darth Omar said:
If I was an owner I'd pass on Kap too.

But not for raycism. There's this thing called the business model. If I hire a QB/SJW who grandstands before every game and brings boo's from my ticket holders, I'm screwing myself. I want my ticket holders happy.

If he was a Tom Brady, it might be different. But he isn't, so owners didn't want to take a risk on Kap because of his baggage.
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Yet.

No owners wanted to take a chance on Vick either, before Philly did. Fans forget all about their pre conceived notions, once their sports team puts up numbers. The first time Kap rushes for 60 yards, and puts up 3 T.D.s in a game, the fans will hop on board.
 
Althea said:
Ironic that he just handed Kap an NFL contract because of his big mouth. Before his latest Twitter tirade, no teams were interested in taking a chance on how fans might react to the hiring of Kaepernick. Ironic, because each week shows us more inept QB play around the league.
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Another lie.

No one has signed that POS Kaperdick to date. And now they are all thanking their lucky stars they didn't.
 
Covfefe said:
They aren't shitting on the flag, protest is a part of our heritage, Jefferson encouraged it. It is what makes our nation great. When you put the American flag before American people is when flag worship becomes dangerous. The flag is a symbol and I don't worship it.
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And it's the anthem. The racist lyrics are never sung at any public events.....or anywhere for that matter.
 
Covfefe said:
The new poll by Rasmussen finds that 34 percent are less likely to watch the NFL because of the protests. Only 12 percent said the protests made them more likely to watch while 50 percent said the protests did not impact their viewing habits.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/22/rasmussen-poll-34-less-likely-watch-nfl-anthem-protests/amp/
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Granted...that's a flawed online poll, but I said the same thing elsewhere. The majority don't give a shit.
 
Althea said:
When necessary, what are the options? You don't find it odd that every time a grand jury refuses to indict a murderous cop, the civil courts mete out justice?
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That's why I ask the question who should handle it. The Fed doesn't exactly have the best record with the militarization of the police etc.
 
Thing1 said:
The NFL is between a rock and a hard place right now, courtesy of Trump. I don't think they should ignore those people - but do you have the #'s about the # of fans who feel the opposite way, and support the stand the players are taking?

Trump made this an impossible choice for them, and a business crisis that they did not need. And it's a business that has a lot of people who rely on it for their livelihoods - it's not just rich owners.
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Very good points. Owners realize that they'd better side with their team.
 
Darth Omar said:
See, this is the exact attitude that explains why democrats keep losing.

You can't ignore those kind of poll numbers in marketing decisions or in elections. 'They'll get over it, eventually' isn't the proper response.

The NFL would have done themselves of favor if they would have nipped this in the bud.
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Democrats lose because of gerrymandered states that are still left over from the teabag wave.

Nothing more
 
Covfefe said:
I'm not a Dem, I vote people over party.

If this trend holds it could be a loss of revenue for the NFL, but American pupeople are fickle and they will return to football.

The NFL has made their statement and now they will move on. Old white boomers don't have much going on in their lives, they'll come back!
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And the bulk
of the NFL business comes via bookmaking, and fantasy football. Neither are going away any time soon.
 
Darth Omar said:
Dude, I'm not free to use my job as a platform to protest.

Well in theory I'm free to do it. But patients who I come in contact aren't interested in my political views and my boss would have me in the office if I were to start with on the job protesting. It has absolutely nothing to do with the First Amendment. But I am a *professional* so I wouldn't do it anyway. Kap and the rest are supposedly professional athletes---but I guess they consider themselves a special case of professional.

It has nothing to do with freedom. I'm not even sure what it's about, so maybe you can explain it.
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If you don't understand the difference between the size of the stage, and exposure you have vs. the NFL, then I suppose I can't make you understand why Sunday afternoon is the perfect venue for such a statement.
 
Althea said:
Kaepernick will be hired
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Trump Diva said:
Let me simplify. When a bunch of overpaid ingrates bite the hand that feeds them and publicly shits on the flag and country of those who pay for their opulent lifestyles - they will get what they deserve.

The government cannot suppress anyone's free speech, but private business have a choice in what they tolerate.

The owners and coaches will long regret they sided with a few fringe lunatics against their entire fan base. Gotta love the free market.

AAL -- Anti-American League
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How are they overpaid?

And I'm sure you realize that scores of middle class workers and small businesses are potentially negatively impacted by this, as well.
 
Thing1 said:
The NFL bears responsibility - but what's happening this week is basically all on Trump. He stoked a fire that was down to its last embers.

It's what he does. We've never had a leader who thrived so much on conflict and division, and sought to actually increase it rather than alleviate it.
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It hides the fact that he has absolutely no qualifications to lead anything...let alone the free world.
 
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