Question for Honest Liberals - Why should Illegals not vote?

First step is amnesty. Next step is full citizenship with voting rights. We know the left wing playbook. They are never satisfied with a compromise. THey will push for for full leftist reform until its done.
 
floridafan said:
In my state an ID is never needed. When you register you sign the proper forms, then when voting day comes I sign a form at the polling place and that is compared to my signature when I registered. Simple and easy solution.
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How did you prove you were the person you said you were?
 
' said:
yes that is the current state of affairs. But why shouldn't that be changed?
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Why should it be changed, idiot?
To justify your false charge that liberals support illegal imigration?
I can't think of any other reason other than your base instinct to troll.

THE FUCKING TRUTH IS THAT THE RIGHT BENEFITS FROM ILLEGALS, NOT THE LEFT.
 
Micawber said:
I do not think illegals should have the right to vote. I think illegals who will and have jump(ed) through all the hoops you described, such as paying taxes and having jobs (those things that you apparently consider to be an insidious slippery slope to the franchise) should be made US citizens, then get to vote.

Check and mate.
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So anyone who comes here illegally should be given citizenship over a period of time, as long as they don't commit a felony for say 10 years?
 
archives said:
Hate to disappoint, and I think I lean left although I wan't banned above, but I don't think they should have the right to vote.

Will they ever get it, probably down the road, but by then lets hope the Nation has a solid immigration policy
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I know you lean left, so you needn't ever wonder about where you stand politically. ;)

The Nation does have a solid immigration policy. The problem is impatience. There are too many assholes in this country that want darker faces here, and they want them here, NOW. Preferably males between the ages of 18 - 24.
 
Irish said:
First step is amnesty. Next step is full citizenship with voting rights. We know the left wing playbook. They are never satisfied with a compromise. THey will push for for full leftist reform until its done.
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You don't know your stinking ass from a hole in the ground, moron.
 
' said:
an amendment?

some backdoor bullshit that liberals always try to sneak through?

I am asking for you to explain your reasoning, not comment on what is. The question posed to you (assuming you are an honest liberal) is WHY NOT? Why should illegals not be allowed to vote?
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What possible reason could there be to grant rights of citizenship to those who didn't earn them?
 
Irish said:
How did you prove you were the person you said you were?
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Point your missing, or just ignoring, is that voter ID fraud is nearly nonexistent, so why would you spend all the money and time instituting a mandatory Voter ID requirement which could disenfranchise numbers of qualified voters?

At a time when nearly half the nation doesn't vote you would be raising unnecessary hurdles to prevent some from voting
 
Rune said:
Why should it be changed, idiot?
To justify your false charge that liberals support illegal imigration?
I can't think of any other reason other than your base instinct to troll.

THE FUCKING TRUTH IS THAT THE RIGHT BENEFITS FROM ILLEGALS, NOT THE LEFT.
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first, HAHAHA at you thinking the right benefits from illegals. that's why none of us want them.

Second, I have asked a simple question, and no liberal has taken me up on it. Explain why YOU BELIEVE they should not be allowed to vote. Why do YOU BELIEVE the constitution should not be changed. Why are you so afraid to describe why you DONT BELIEVE illiegals should be allowed to vote. A conservative could answer this question completely easily and without pause, but so far every liberal in this thread has dodged it. Answer my fucking question or get the fuck out!
 
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first, HAHAHA at you thinking the right benefits from illegals. that's why none of us want them.

Second, I have asked a simple question, and no liberal has taken me up on it. Explain why YOU BELIEVE they should not be allowed to vote. Why do YOU BELIEVE the constitution should not be changed. Why are you so afraid to describe why you DONT BELIEVE illiegals should be allowed to vote. A conservative could answer this question completely easily and without pause, but so far every liberal in this thread has dodged it. Answer my fucking question or get the fuck out!
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asked and answered, space monkey.
Try reading.

Now you reply to my points
 
Rune said:
asked and answered, space monkey.
Try reading.

Now you reply to my points
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I dont think it should be changed. I am asking liberals why they explicitly dont want illegals to vote. I dont believe you have been clear on that.
 
I, on the other hand, have nothing against a voter ID so long as the government pays for it all, and painstakingly goes in every nook and cranny of the USA seeking out every single human being and hands them one, 100 percent at its effort, time and expense. It would only help Democratic candidates. Whatever palty fraud numbers are arrested will be much much more than made up for by all the newly minted brown and black voters who can strut passed your wrangler wearing thugs to the polls armed with their "oh yes I sure as hell can vote" identification.
 
floridafan said:
In my state an ID is never needed. When you register you sign the proper forms, then when voting day comes I sign a form at the polling place and that is compared to my signature when I registered. Simple and easy solution.
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Are you suggesting that signatures can't be forged??
 
floridafan said:
That still does not tell us why an ID to vote is required. The incidence of illegal voting is almost zero, more prof that an ID isn't needed.
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That's like saying that the incidents of people driving without a license is almost zero, so why do we need drivers licenses.
 
Irish said:
First step is amnesty. Next step is full citizenship with voting rights. We know the left wing playbook. They are never satisfied with a compromise. THey will push for for full leftist reform until its done.
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How many more "amnesties" should be considered; because it seems like liberals just want to continue with them?
 
Micawber said:
I, on the other hand, have nothing against a voter ID so long as the government pays for it all, and painstakingly goes in every nook and cranny of the USA seeking out every single human being and hands them one, 100 percent at its effort, time and expense. It would only help Democratic candidates. Whatever palty fraud numbers are arrested will be much much more than made up for by all the newly minted brown and black voters who can strut passed your wrangler wearing thugs to the polls armed with their "oh yes I sure as hell can vote" identification.
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Your expression of your "feelings", within your comment, has only added to the revelation that you're an idiot; because it's apparent that you don't believe in personal responsibility and that you do believe that the Government is your Daddy. :good4u:
 
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