Is birthright citizenship on the way out??

floridafan said:
Yes, like it or not, the Supreme court has allowed women to choose what they do with their own bodies. Tuff shit!
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not only that, they allowed women to chop the bodies of their unborn children into small parts that can be sold for research........florida is a fan of chopped up babies......
 
floridafan said:
you can't arbitrarily change the constitution to conform with your personal interpretation. In fact, the wording is quite straightforward and simple to understand.
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of course its simple to understand.....and everyone understands its been misappropriated and misused.......the change won't be arbitrary.....all we have to do is realize that every descendant of a slave that was alive in the 1860s has already been made a citizen.......
 
Micawber said:
Africans need to come to the south, grab a bunch of rich conservative whites, sail them to Africa, make them work for free for 200 years and deny them "African" (or the nation state wherein they reside) citizenship.
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Didn't something like that happen in Rhodesia, without the sailing?
 
Yaya said:
I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Let me ask you, do you honestly think the constitution meant for people to come into the country illegally and have babies just so their babies could have citizenship?

Please sober up when you answer.
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Do you honestly think the framers anticipated the mass lethality of the weaponry for sale today back in circa 1790? Sober up and answer.
 
Yaya said:
Yeah, cause that is really what I was saying. :rolleyes:
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No, you were really saying it only as the argument applies to your pet peeve, and you were really ignoring its application anywhere else that you would like it not to apply with equal force.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
first off, the 2nd Amendment infers no right commit murder. Secondly, the 2nd Amendment absolutely intends to allow citizens to have every available firearm that any military man can carry. you might not like it, but the commentaries of those before AND after ratification bear that out.
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Yep, and they have been thoroughly trained in it's use. They are not issued weapons with a voucher from Dick's Sporting Goods without training. Gun ownership is a right protected by the Constitution but it is also a responsibility. Driving is a right but with it comes demonstrable responsibility, common sense when given the right to drive a 3,000 lb. vehicle 70 mph. The same common sense should be used when giving the right to own a weapon capable of ending life.
 
Threedee said:
I don't think there is a way to rule that birthright citizenship of this manner violates the spirit of the 14th. Thus, it will require a new amendment to sort out.
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The spirit of the 14th wasn't intended to reward the by products of illegals coming here and doffing them off.
 
Micawber said:
Africans need to come to the south, grab a bunch of rich conservative whites, sail them to Africa, make them work for free for 200 years and deny them "African" (or the nation state wherein they reside) citizenship.
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They're too busy creating bastard children and living up to Lyndon Johnson claim of what they'd do to try.
 
floridafan said:
you can't arbitrarily change the constitution to conform with your personal interpretation. In fact, the wording is quite straightforward and simple to understand.
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It's not a personal interpretation. It's applying the amendment in the manner in which those that wrote it intended to be applied. The intention wasn't what you believe it to be and simple to understand if you want to understand it.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
of course its simple to understand.....and everyone understands its been misappropriated and misused.......the change won't be arbitrary.....all we have to do is realize that every descendant of a slave that was alive in the 1860s has already been made a citizen.......
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And that was the INTENT of the Amendment.
 
floridafan said:
you can't arbitrarily change the constitution to conform with your personal interpretation. In fact, the wording is quite straightforward and simple to understand.
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That's exactly what happened to the Constitution with abortion and fag marriages. Nothing related to either of those situations is in the Constitution. In order for those to be part of what the Constitution says, the meaning of the Constitution had to be arbitrarily changed. Seems you have no problem with that.
 
The 14th Amendment was well intended. The abuse of such is what so many have problems with. This has nothing to do with bigotry or racism or whatever insults you want to hurl at people who think that this amendment should get some attention.
 
aloysious said:
Yep, and they have been thoroughly trained in it's use. They are not issued weapons with a voucher from Dick's Sporting Goods without training. Gun ownership is a right protected by the Constitution but it is also a responsibility. Driving is a right but with it comes demonstrable responsibility, common sense when given the right to drive a 3,000 lb. vehicle 70 mph. The same common sense should be used when giving the right to own a weapon capable of ending life.
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so a poll tax to exercise rights, sorta like a voter ID card. makes sense...........
 
Yaya said:
I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Let me ask you, do you honestly think the constitution meant for people to come into the country illegally and have babies just so their babies could have citizenship?

Please sober up when you answer.
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do you honestly think the constitution was meant to restrict the rights and activities of the people?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
well, we could strictly interpret the provisions that tell us how to change the constitution......which of course is how the amendment that created anchor babies came about in the first place.......
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unintended consequences of forced reconstruction. Maybe the northern fucktards should have thought their bullshit through better.
 
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