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Former Vice President
Dumbass
I hope the Russiaphobes are happy now
- Thread starter Darth Omar
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This thread is pretty funny.
On a few levels.
On a few levels.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
oh lord I do not feel like reading thru Article 2. I suppose Congress can set sanctions -but when sanctions cannot be changed/met by POTUS, that has to be over-reach..
what is amazing here is permanent Congressional ennui - except for Russian sanction
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
The only reason why POTUS would have no say is when the sanction is veto-proof. Even still, he's not supposed to be altering the details. Even if Congress chooses to ignore it, the actions would still be unlawful.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Yeah right, like Trump signing it will appease the russia conspiracy theorists lol.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Trump could also just leave it on his desk and not sign it into law.
At least, until there's a full investigation to rule out a Pakistani connection to the DNC leak. Any election related sanctions against Russia would be premature until that is settled. So Trump's action [non-action actually] would be prudent in that case.
And funny as hell lol.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Democrats are in lock-step with the Russian hysteria and spineless republicans fear being labeled as agents of the Kremlin.
All based on incomplete evidence. Pretty insane when you think about it.
not altering. the problem is Congress can veto anything POTUS want, even if Russian sanction requirements are met, Congress can then just move the goalposts
the new McCartyism
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Joe has to be doing handstands in his grave.
It's crazy. Never thought I'd see the day the left would do McCarthy proud.
paranoid hysteria coupled with an inability of Obama to deal w/Putin=unfounded charges of Russian collusion yields handfuls of Congressional investigaions..i'd say that is the same as McCarthyism
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
If he does that it becomes an unsigned law, unless he can time it right.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
True.
But if I were him I would do it out of principle just to keep from being forced to play along in the charade.
Say what you will, but you know the thing about McCarthyism is that there was behind it in fact an international communist conspiracy in addition to the giant ego that exploited it. So I'd say the Republican Party has decided for expediency and to salvage a despised egomaniac president to subvert investigation into espionage and subversion of our electoral processes. It's really the same event playing out, and in both instances it is Republicans who are the mad dogs, and of course massively hypocritical and betrayers to their own former ideology.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
I'd say you and Joe have [had] about equal evidence for your respective conspiracy theories lol.
And no, consensus opinion doesn't count as evidence. Not heresay, innuendo, junk dossiers, but direct evidence.
Todays McCarthyism is bi-partisan. It infects both sides of the aisle. The similarity is the hysterical undrpinnings of both,
Telling me there was an "international conspiracy" as a justification then is the same thing as telling me the fact Russia exists today is reason enough for un-supported charges of Russian collusion .
Which begat todays today's multiple in investigations over nothing just as the House Un-American Hearings were based on hysteria without foundation.
Russian collusion is a meme based on nothing more then hysteria, ginned up from the remnants of the Hillary campaign
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Sure you would Anatta .. but that doesn't make it any less wrong as fuck.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Bingo.