GOP's Obamacare Repeal Cut Insured by 32 Million, CBO Says

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GOP's Obamacare Repeal Cut Insured by 32 Million, CBO SaysA Republican fallback plan to repeal all of Obamacare without a replacement health program would lead to 32 million more people uninsured than under current law, the Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.That’s about 10 million more uninsured than the estimated 22 million people who wouldn’t be covered under a previous Senate Republican bill to replace many parts of Obamacare. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said the Senate may vote on the measure as soon as next week, though support for it is uncertain.
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The full-repeal proposal is called the Obamacare Repeal Reconciliation Act. It’s an updated version of a bill that Republicans passed in 2015 that was vetoed by then-president Barack Obama. The proposal would repeal Obamacare’s coverage expansion in two years, giving lawmakers time to come up with a replacement.
[h=3]Path Forward?[/h]Republicans are scrambling to come up with a way forward on their seven-year-old promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act. McConnell has so far failed to unify his caucus and bring a bill to a vote after moderates and conservatives defected over conflicting objections to the plans. On Wednesday, the White House touted a plan from Texas Senator Ted Cruz that would allow limited, cheaper insurance plans.
Cruz’s plan is part of prior measure, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, that didn’t attract enough votes to start debate after two other conservative senators defected from the effort on Monday night. On Wednesday, President Donald Trump called lawmakers to the White House to try and find a way forward with that bill or another.
The repeal-only proposal would have grave effects on the market for individual insurance where many in Obamacare currently get their plans. CBO estimated that the repeal would result in about half of the population living in areas where no insurer would offer plans in the nongroup market by 2020, a number that increases to about three-fourths of Americans by 2026.
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It would also raise the costs for people to buy insurance, by about 25 percent in 2018 and more afterwards. The bill eliminates a requirement that all Americans carry insurance, which would mean that those who ended up buying health coverage would be sicker, causing insurers to charge more to make up for their costs. After 2020, “enrollment would continue to drop and premiums would continue to increase in each subsequent year,” the CBO said.
The proposal would reduce the federal deficit by $473 billion over 10 years, according to the CBO, compared to $321 billion under the Better Care Reconciliation Act. The savings in both plans come from rolling back Obamacare’s expansion of the Medicaid program for the poor and ending or limiting subsidies to help people purchase insurance.


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Where does the Constitution say the government should offer health insurance?

If you can't (or won't) buy or pay for your own, tough.

The republic got along fine without government-mandated health insurance from its' inception until Obamacare was voted in at midnight by the DemocRats.
 
the American people dont agree with you


medical care was not much back in their day huh idiot


there were very few trained Drs and few hospitals huh asshole
 
LuvTrump said:
Where does the Constitution say the government should offer health insurance?

If you can't (or won't) buy or pay for your own, tough.

The republic got along fine without government-mandated health insurance from its' inception until Obamacare was voted in at midnight by the DemocRats.
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persuit of life
 
LuvTrump said:
Where does the Constitution say the government should offer health insurance?

If you can't (or won't) buy or pay for your own, tough.

The republic got along fine without government-mandated health insurance from its' inception until Obamacare was voted in at midnight by the DemocRats.
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The congresspersons voting on Obamacare repeal get their own insurance from the government. Is that not ironic?
 
thats wierd. Premiums rose by a lot under obamacare because you had to factor in the unhealthy people you would have to give insurance to.

Remove said unhealthy people and premiums still rise according to the cbo.

lol?
 
Aetna's recent announcements that they are leaving state markets follows United Health Group's decision to leave most ObamaCare markets, Humana's decision to drop out, Blue Cross Blue Shield's announcement that it was quitting the individual market, and the failure of most of the 23 government-created insurance co-ops.

Insurance companies are putting in for double-digit rate hikes that in some cases top 60%, and the Congressional Budget Office has sharply downgraded long-term enrollment forecasts for the exchanges.

Who could have envisioned such problems?

Not ObamaCare backers. They endlessly promised that the law would create vibrant, highly competitive markets that would lower the cost of insurance.

Critics, however, were spot on.


  • They said that, despite the individual mandate, ObamaCare wouldn't attract enough young and healthy people to keep premiums down. The Heritage Foundation, for example, said that under ObamaCare, "many under age 35 will opt out of buying insurance altogether, choosing to pay the penalty instead." That's just what has happened.


  • Critics predicted sharp hikes in premiums and big increases in medical claims. That's what's happened.



  • Critics said people would game the system, waiting until they got sick to buy insurance, then cancel it once the bills were paid, because of the law's "guaranteed issue" mandate. That's happened too.



  • Critics said insurers would abandon ObamaCare amid substantial losses. Anyone want to dispute that this is happening?

Subsidies and mandates are not sufficient to drive high participation of younger, healthier members.

Aetna's Bertolini says that what's needed to keep ObamaCare functioning are bigger and more generous taxpayer financed insurance subsidies — i.e., bailouts.

DemocRats say what's needed is a "public option" so that consumers in states abandoned by private insurers will be able to get coverage.

How about instead policymakers listen to the original ObamaCare critics?

For decades, they've been calling for reforms that lift myriad anti-competitive government regulations, as well as fixes to the tax code so that it no longer massively distorts the insurance market.


The resulting free market competition in health care would do what it does everywhere it's allowed to function — improve quality while improving affordability. In other words, it would achieve the things ObamaCare promised but miserably failed to deliver.






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It was amusing to hear Chuck Schumer say, after the Senate bill failed, that Republicans should "work with DemocRats on a bill that lowers premiums, provides long-term stability to the markets and improves our health care system."


Lower premiums, stabilize insurance markets, improve health care? Wasn't that what ObamaCare was supposed to do in the first place?


While Schumer and company were busy calling Republicans mass murderers, here's what was actually happening with ObamaCare.

  • The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services reports that the number of insurers applying to participate in ObamaCare exchanges next year plunged by 38% compared with last year, and is half what it was in 2016.
  • CMS also reported that 40 counties in Indiana, Ohio and Nevada are at risk of having zero insurance companies in their ObamaCare exchanges next year. The Kaiser Family Foundation put the number of at-risk counties at 38.
  • In addition, CMS reported that 2.4 million enrollees in 40% of the nation's counties will have just one insurance company in their area.
  • The average increase in premiums next year for a Silver plan in eight states will be 18%, according to Avalere. One of the last ObamaCare insurers in Iowa has put in for a 43.5% hike. In Washington state, the average boost is 22%. In Tennessee, the proposed rate hikes range from 21% to 42%. And so on.
  • As we noted before in this space, these insurance defections and gargantuan rate hikes have nothing to do with the Republican's repeal effort, but with the continued deterioration of the ObamaCare markets.
  • States are also starting to struggle with the costs of ObamaCare's "free" Medicaid expansion. A report from the National Association of State Budget Offices said that the expansion will cost states nearly $9 billion next year, more than twice what it cost in 2016.
  • CMS reports that the per capita costs of the Medicaid expansion are 50% higher than expected.
  • Arkansas scaled back its Medicaid expansion in May, and Ohio lawmakers voted in June to freeze the expansion in that state. Oregon's Medicaid expansion contributed a $1.6 billion gap in the state's budget. In California, the Medicaid expansion will cost the state $1.3 billion this year, putting additional strain on the state's budget.

As economist Herbert Stein once put it, if something can't go on forever, it won't.


That's the reality facing ObamaCare. And it's one DemocRats have so far been able to avoid by focusing the public's ire on the GOP efforts to come up with a replacement.


But with repeal-and-replace now off the table, all we have left is the self-destructing ObamaCare. Don't be surprised if ObamaCare's popularity suddenly nose-dives again.


So the GOP's answer to Schumer should be: You had your chance to fix health care. You blew it. Twice. First when you passed ObamaCare, and second when you refused to admit that mistake and decided to cast Republicans as evil. Why should the GOP reward you with a third?


Plus, as ObamaCare exchanges continue to crumble and as more states chafe at Medicaid's costs, it will be easier for Republicans to repeal.



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LuvTrump said:
Where does the Constitution say the government should offer health insurance?

If you can't (or won't) buy or pay for your own, tough.

The republic got along fine without government-mandated health insurance from its' inception until Obamacare was voted in at midnight by the DemocRats.
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Specifically, it doesn't, idiot. So what?

There is the General Welfare Clause that does apply, though.
 
domer76 said:
Specifically, it doesn't, idiot. So what? There is the General Welfare Clause that does apply, though.
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I don't agree. Repeal. Don't replace.

Government has no Constitutional mandate to be in the insurance business, or to dispense charity out of the public purse.
 
LuvTrump said:
I don't agree. Repeal. Don't replace.

Government has no Constitutional mandate to be in the insurance business, or to dispense charity out of the public purse.
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Nobody said anything about insurance, idiot.

Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."

Butler and Dole (SCOTUS) says you're wrong
 
domer76 said:
Nobody said anything about insurance, idiot.

Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."

Butler and Dole (SCOTUS) says you're wrong
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ObamaCare doesn't mandate health insurance?

SCOTUS rulings have been overturned before.
 
LuvTrump said:
ObamaCare doesn't mandate health insurance?

SCOTUS rulings have been overturned before.
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First, the ACA was already deemed Constitutional.

The other point, which went over your head, is that Congress has the authority to define "general welfare", to levy taxes for that purpose and to spend those funds for that purpose.
 
domer76 said:
First, the ACA was already deemed Constitutional. The other point, which went over your head, is that Congress has the authority to define "general welfare", to levy taxes for that purpose and to spend those funds for that purpose.
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ObamaCare is going to die. There's nothing you can do except watch.
 
LuvTrump said:
ObamaCare is going to die. There's nothing you can do except watch.
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Despite what your pathologically lying buffoon says, he owns health care now. That he does nothing, is on his shoulders, not Obama's.

But then again, other than constant lying, that's what Drumpf does best, nothing.
 
LuvTrump said:
Where does the Constitution say the government should offer health insurance?

If you can't (or won't) buy or pay for your own, tough.

The republic got along fine without government-mandated health insurance from its' inception until Obamacare was voted in at midnight by the DemocRats.
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Take it away from 32 million and republicans sign their own death warrant...
You can not "unring" the bell grasshopper...
 
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