the people like big government so shut up

evince

evince

Truthmatters
quit pretending a big country cant have a big governement idiots


the people of America dont agree with your idiot meme
 
you are a person

a sociopathic one

that means you have a broken mind that feels no compassion for your fellow man
 
a government big enough to give you everything, is also big enough to take away everything.

people are apathetic and government is the enemy.

we are not the government.
 
size is not the point

working efficeintly is thye point


Its an idiots meme to talk fools into making this country to weak to resist the evil in the world
 
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I consider myself a progressive in many ways (and I'm sure many on here consider me the same way) - but I have always contended that you can advance progressive ideals and still advocate for small government and lower taxes, and that these are not mutually exclusive concepts.

It bums me out to see progressives & liberals actually celebrate the idea of bigger government and higher taxes, but I think many on the left have become that way. Desh is the extreme example of that. Our government is incredibly bloated and inefficient. I was in my glory during the Clinton years when he publicly called for "smaller, smarter government," and Gore was overseeing an initiative called "reinventing government" which really looked at the bigger picture on the way programs and agencies are run. The latter was making real headway in eliminating waste & improving efficiencies, but was unfortunately abandoned.

And the GOP - my goodness. The one silver lining I always consider when they're in power is that MAYBE they'll curb spending intelligently - but do they ever love to spend.
 
evince said:
being a libertarian is a fools path


size it not the point

defend your idiot opinion thingy
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It's straight-up embarrassing that a country like America - with the education, talent & resources that we have - cannot run itself efficiently without ringing up trillions of dollars of debt.

I don't know how anyone can look at that, and see where it's headed, and make any sane argument that things are hunky dory and that this is desirable in any way.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
a government big enough to give you everything, is also big enough to take away everything.

people are apathetic and government is the enemy.

we are not the government.
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You mean like the way AG Jeff "small gub'mint conservative Republican" Sessions advocates expanding asset seizures of people including those who are merely suspected of a crime?
 
Thing1 said:
It's straight-up embarrassing that a country like America - with the education, talent & resources that we have - cannot run itself efficiently without ringing up trillions of dollars of debt.

I don't know how anyone can look at that, and see where it's headed, and make any sane argument that things are hunky dory and that this is desirable in any way.
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debt is a tool


what percent of debt do you think is the right level
 
look at that list of countrys and their place and debt level compared to GDP


we are not in trouble


Its fucking crap
 
Thing1 said:
It's straight-up embarrassing that a country like America - with the education, talent & resources that we have - cannot run itself efficiently without ringing up trillions of dollars of debt.

I don't know how anyone can look at that, and see where it's headed, and make any sane argument that things are hunky dory and that this is desirable in any way.
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you like all cons NEVER answer this question


give up these stupid ideas Or tell us the proper level and why
 
Pos
Country
Debt % of GDP
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1
Japan
226
Japan debt
2
Zimbabwe
202.4

3
Greece
175

4
Italy
133
*Italy debt
5
Iceland
130.5

6
Portugal
127.8
*Portugal debt
7
Ireland
124.2
*Ireland debt
8
Jamaica
123

9
Lebanon
120

10
Cyprus
113

11
Sudan
111

12
Grenada
110

13
Singapore
105.5

14
Eritrea
104.7

15
Belgium
102.4

16
Puerto Rico
96.5

17
Spain
93.7
*Spain debt
18
France
93.4
*France debt
19
Egypt
92.2

20
United Kingdom
91.1
*UK debt
21
Barbados
90.5

22
Antigua and Barbuda
89

23
Canada
86.3
*Canada debt
24
Cabo Verde
86.2

25
Saint Kitts and Nevis
83

26
Germany
79.9

27
Hungary
79.8

28
Jordan
79.1

29
Sri Lanka
78.4

30
Saint Lucia
77

31
Morocco
76.9

32
Austria
75.7

33
Malta
75

34
Belize
75

35
Netherlands
74.3

36
United States
71.8
*US debt
37
Slovenia
71.7

38
Albania
70.5

39
Dominica
70

40
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
68

41
Israel
67

42
Aruba
67

43
Croatia
66.2

44
Sao Tome and Principe
65.5

45
Uruguay
62

46
El Salvador
62

47
Serbia
61.2

48
Bahrain
61.2

49
Guyana
59.9

50
Brazil
59.2

51
Syria
58.9

52
Mauritius
68

53
Finland
56.5

54
Fiji
56.2

55
Slovakia
55.5

56
Costa Rica
55

57
Pakistan
54.6

58
Malaysia
54.6

59
Kenya
53.5

60
Ghana
53.1

61
Montenegro
52.1

62
Seychelles
51.8

63
India
51.8

64
Tunisia
51

65
Malawi
50.8

66
Nicaragua
50

67
Ethiopia
50

68
Philippines
50

69
Czech Republic
48.8

70
Vietnam
48.2

71
Poland
48.2

72
Burundi
47.6

73
Yemen
47.1

74
Dominican Republic
47

75
Denmark
47

76
Mozambique
46.7

77
Laos
46.3

78
Bosnia and Herzegovina
45.9

79
Thailand
45.9

80
Argentina
45.8

81
South Africa
45.4

82
Cote d’Ivoire
45.2

83
Tanzania
42.7

84
United Arab Emirates
41.7

85
Sweden
41.5

86
Andorra
41.1

87
Honduras
40.6

88
Ukraine
40.6

89
Lithuania
40.2

90
Panama
39.8

91
Colombia
39.6

92
Latvia
39.2

93
Bhutan
38.9

94
Taiwan
38.9

95
Djibouti
38.6

96
Romania
38.6

97
Senegal
38.4

98
New Zealand
38.4

99
Armenia
37.7

100
Mexico
37.7

101
Trinidad and Tobago
37.1

102
Turkey
36.6

103
Georgia
36.3

104
Bolivia
36

105
Cuba
35.9

106
Korea, South
35.8

107
Hong Kong
35.6

108
Macedonia
34.3

109
Venezuela
34.2

110
Switzerland
33.8

111
Curacao
33.2

112
Australia
32.6

113
Congo, Republic of the
32.1

114
Zambia
31.8

115
Belarus
31.5

116
Sierra Leone
31.1

117
Guatemala
31

118
Bangladesh
30.9

119
Uganda
30.7

120
Qatar
30.6

121
Chad
30.5

122
Mali
30.5

123
Norway
30.1

124
Benin
29.7

125
Papua New Guinea
28.1

126
Nepal
28

127
Namibia
27.2

128
San Marino
25.8

129
Indonesia
24

130
Rwanda
23.5

131
Ecuador
23.2

132
Gabon
23

133
Luxembourg
22.9

134
China
22.4

135
Anguilla
20

136
Nigeria
19.3

137
Iran
18.7

138
Bulgaria
18.4

139
Botswana
17.9

140
Cameroon
16.7

141
Moldova
16.6

142
Paraguay
15.7

143
Kazakhstan
15.6

144
Peru
14.9

145
Angola
14.7

146
Chile
13.9

147
Algeria
13.2

148
Saudi Arabia
12.2

149
Equatorial Guinea
11

150
Kosovo
9

151
Russia
7.9

152
Uzbekistan
7.6

153
Azerbaijan
7.5

154
Gibraltar
7.5

155
Tajikistan
6.5

156
Kuwait
6.4

157
Estonia
6

158
Wallis and Futuna
5.6

159
Libya
4.8

160
Oman
4.4

161
Liberia
3.3
 
why do cons ALWAYS refuse to answer this question


what level of debt is acceptable in youR theory


in over a decade NOT ONE FUCKING CON has ever answered that question
 
Thing1 said:
It's straight-up embarrassing that a country like America - with the education, talent & resources that we have - cannot run itself efficiently without ringing up trillions of dollars of debt.

I don't know how anyone can look at that, and see where it's headed, and make any sane argument that things are hunky dory and that this is desirable in any way.
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then what level is acceptable


why do you refuse to answer this question
 
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