Graham unloads on Trump: Blind spot on Russia 'undermining his entire presidency'

anatta said:
unlike yourself, I do constant research.
While my forte is still ME/ terrorism
I began to hear about "NATO expansion" and started to study things like promising not to put NATO troops into E.Germany after reunification. ( Jsmes Baker et all)

That led to wondering WTF we have Romania in NATO,and why an ABM system there is supposedly against non-existent Iranian ICBM's is actually a way to put nuclear missiles on Putin's borders.

If you say I am guilty of continuing studies, I agree.
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:0) PLEASE STOP. You're not doing research, that's not 'studies.' You're reading and listening to other people and right-wing media, then posting information that they gave or led you to as if it was your own.

Look at your 'research' .. they're timed to news articles of the day. That's not research.

You got Libya, the 'jewel' of your 'research' .. from me. .. Now all of a sudden you're Walter Cronkite. :0) Save that noise brother.

I repeat, you did not have all this Putin love before Trump gave it to you. That's not research.

It's neither research nor 'studies' that only demonstrate your opposition in a negative light, particularly given all the valid negatives about Trump that you rarely if ever talk about. Somehow all your 'research' doesn't lead you there.
 
blackascoal said:
Don't look now my friend, but the entire world is laughing at us.

America has never looked so inept, so weak, and so bumbling as we do right now.

The eagle has become a pigeon.
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Only weak persons care what others think. All these other latte-sipping weak nations who have destroyed themselves from within have none of my admiration. And, he who laughs last, laughs best. Success is better after having previously endured ridicule.

 
anatta said:
Brennan ( Meet the Press) was even worse.
he got bent that Trump said "it's an honor to meet you" to Putin.
( he went off on the usual "murderous KGB thug" mantra)

Diplomatic niceties is now verbotten. They are mad Russiaphobic dogs that must be fed Putin's head.
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I think this image should be appealing, perhaps even titillating to Drumpf supporters...
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Russia violated international law, and violated the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Russia invasions and proxy wars in Ukraine have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

What a rightwing message boarder thinks about Ukraine is irrelevant. It is their country, not yours, and their sovereignty was violated by a foreign power is malignant intent.
You have not rights and no moral or legal authority to give away Ukrainian sovereignty to the Kremlin, or make "grand" bargains on their behalf .

If you cannot stand up for the rule of law and acceptable standards of international conduct, your opinion isn't worth more than a warm bucket of piss.

And yes, I am first out of the box to criticize the U.S. for violations of international law. I still call out unrepentant supporters of the Iraq War Disaster.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
The USA is now a 2nd tier country...
Little more than an annex to Russia...
Putin is in charge of America's foreign policy...
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The good news is that none of this goes unnoticed. Trump is an aberration that won't sit in that chair beyond one term.

The challenge is to win the House and Senate .. thus neutering the pussy-grabber before he blows up the planet.
 
Cypress said:
I think this image should be appealing, perhaps even titillating to Drumpf supporters...
51443048.jpg


Russia violated international law, and violated the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Russia invasions and proxy wars in Ukraine have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

What a rightwing message boarder thinks about Ukraine is irrelevant. It is their country, not yours, and their sovereignty was violated by a foreign power is malignant intent.
You have not rights and no moral or legal authority to give away Ukrainian sovereignty to the Kremlin, or make "grand" bargains on their behalf .

If you cannot stand up for the rule of law and acceptable standards of international conduct, your opinion isn't worth more than a warm bucket of piss.

And yes, I am first out of the box to criticize the U.S. for violations of international law. I still call out unrepentant supporters of the Iraq War Disaster.
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Vlad is their hero...
Vlad is Glad...
 
blackascoal said:
:0) PLEASE STOP. You're not doing research, that's not 'studies.' You're reading and listening to other people and right-wing media, then posting information that they gave or led you to as if it was your own.

Look at your 'research' .. they're timed to news articles of the day. That's not research.

You got Libya, the 'jewel' of your 'research' .. from me. .. Now all of a sudden you're Walter Cronkite. :0) Save that noise brother.

I repeat, you did not have all this Putin love before Trump gave it to you. That's not research.

It's neither research nor 'studies' that only demonstrate your opposition in a negative light, particularly given all the valid negatives about Trump that you rarely if ever talk about. Somehow all your 'research' doesn't lead you there.
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no i do not simply folow contemporary politics.
They are by and large Kabuki, and while I follow it ,i am much more interested in geo-politics
( which includes international terrorism.)Kindly do not tell me what I do and do not do.
I would never be so rude as to tell you you are not doing what you say you do.
I have always said you opened my eyes on Libya as well, good brother.
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Have you studied the war in Donbass- and attempts by Obama to send in "defensive weapons" over Merkel's objection?
(and why it's necessary given Russian armor and GPS seeking missiles)
The USAID meddling in Uk's Euromaiden
The Orange Revolution
The Budapest Memorandum
Minsk Agreement/Protocol
Generalized NATO expansion
Putin's arctic drilling
Eurasian Economic Union?

if you have -more power to you.
These are some of the topics i've at least become familiar with since Putin's annexation of Crimea.
 
Stretch said:
Only weak persons care what others think. All these other latte-sipping weak nations who have destroyed themselves from within have none of my admiration. And, he who laughs last, laughs best. Success is better after having previously endured ridicule.

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You have no idea how incredibly ignorant that sounds.

..just sayin'
 
anatta said:
no i do not simply folow contemporary politics.
They are by and large Kabuki, and while I follow it ,i am much more interested in geo-politics
( which includes international terrorism.)Kindly do not tell me what I do and do not do.
I would never be so rude as to tell you you are not doing what you say you do.
I have always said you opened my eyes on Libya as well, good brother.
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Have you studied the war in Donbass- and attempts by Obama to send in "defensive weapons" over Merkel's objection?
(and why it's necessary given Russian armor and GPS seeking missiles)
The USAID meddling in Uk's Euromaiden
The Orange Revolution
The Budapest Memorandum
Minsk Agreement
Generalized NATO expansion
Putin's arctic drilling
Eurasian Economic Union?

if you have -more power to you.
These are some of the topics i've at least become familiar with since Putin's annexation of Crimea.
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You started this with "unlike you, I do constant research" .. now you're telling me "I would never be so rude as to tell you you are not doing what you say you do."

So this doesn't get contentious .. I'll step away from it.

Thanks
 
Cypress said:
I think this image should be appealing, perhaps even titillating to Drumpf supporters...
51443048.jpg


Russia violated international law, and violated the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Russia invasions and proxy wars in Ukraine have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

What a rightwing message boarder thinks about Ukraine is irrelevant. It is their country, not yours, and their sovereignty was violated by a foreign power is malignant intent.
You have not rights and no moral or legal authority to give away Ukrainian sovereignty to the Kremlin, or make "grand" bargains on their behalf .

If you cannot stand up for the rule of law and acceptable standards of international conduct, your opinion isn't worth more than a warm bucket of piss.

And yes, I am first out of the box to criticize the U.S. for violations of international law. I still call out unrepentant supporters of the Iraq War Disaster.
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blackandSTUPID said:
So ignore history, ignore Intelligence .. let's all go with what Trump says .. because before Trump, you were not talking about Russia and Putin as you do now.
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Before Trump, Russia invaded Ukraine, invaded the Crimea and shot down a civilian airliner. ObamaTard did NOTHING. Spare me this moronic drivel that six months into the Trump Presidency, this problem is only now being ignored. Dumbass.

But in the extreme, the whiney false stupid FAKE media coverage of Russia only serves to illustrate how petty, stupid and irrelevant the left and their FAKE media have become.

You're too stupid to comprehend the obvious. I have to laugh that you think you have the slightest clue about the historic facts.

blackandSTUPID said:
You have no idea how clueless that sounds.
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More irony from he forums idiot brigade.
 
Cypress said:
I think this image should be appealing, perhaps even titillating to Drumpf supporters...
51443048.jpg


Russia violated international law, and violated the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Russia invasions and proxy wars in Ukraine have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

What a rightwing message boarder thinks about Ukraine is irrelevant. It is their country, not yours, and their sovereignty was violated by a foreign power is malignant intent.
You have not rights and no moral or legal authority to give away Ukrainian sovereignty to the Kremlin, or make "grand" bargains on their behalf .

If you cannot stand up for the rule of law and acceptable standards of international conduct, your opinion isn't worth more than a warm bucket of piss.

And yes, I am first out of the box to criticize the U.S. for violations of international law. I still call out unrepentant supporters of the Iraq War Disaster.
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Did you call out Obama's regime change in Libya?
a complete bastardization of the "No Fly"zone - authorized by the UN (not to mention creating a failed terrorist state)

you conveniently did not mention US meddling in the Euromaiden.
Lavrov calls it a violation of the Budapest Memorandum, and I tend to agree.

Witness John McCain in Independence square.
This is right up his alley - Cold War undermining of government to stick it to Russia

we were not meddling for a noble purpose either. as witnessed by Nulads "Fuck the EU" -
all we cared about is geo-political brinksmanship and sticking it to Putin

You have not rights and no moral or legal authority to give away Ukrainian sovereignty to the Kremlin, or make "grand" bargains on their behalf .
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silly huffing and puffing on your part.
 
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