You know what, that's idiotic, just you doing your best Odorum impression. Is that your way to celebrate the Fourth?
Good idea. Start with your best forensic techniques.
Ukraine became the punching ball between the US and Russia, there is no disputing that, just as there is no disputing that NATO risked Ukrainian lives to have their way, just as Brzezinski made Afghanistan into the punching ball between the US and the USSR, and they have almost forty years of war and civil war as a consequence, with no end in sight.
No, I got your Mucky defense the first time. NATO made Putin invade the Ukraine. It's not his fault.
You didn't "liberate" half of the Ukraine,
You might tell that to the Putin you're fluffing. And, I never talked about the US or NATO liberating anybody. I talked about a million dollars worth of media financing. You think that justified Russian military imperialism. Also, I pointed out earlier the "liberating my people" bullshit didn't fool anybody when Hitler tried it in the Sudetenland either.
and a Ukraine living as a NATO state would be under US hegemony.
No, that's a pathetic straw man. First, the Ukraine was not and is not "living as a NATO state." It was living under a very corrupt Putin puppet. Asserting a NATO affiliation would be US hegemony is hysterical screeching that fits well with the rest of your emotionally overwrought rant.
That's the consequence of your argument, regardless of the fact that the "liberation" wasn't wanted by the eastern half of the country. That complicates your monumentally stupid moralizing self-aggrandizement, doesn't it?
Well, I could see where that might be the case were you able to point to me doing such on behalf of America. If you would like some, you might take a look though at one of us using the you-made-me-shoot-you argument. "If only you had obeyed!"
BTW, the idiocy culminated in, I justified Russian military aggression.
"I blame NATO." 'Sokay, I don't blame you for not paying attention to you, when you get hysterical.
I did no such thing, and you got to be punch drunk to assert same. That Russia warned against further NATO advancement, and took measures to thwart it, is just the understandable reaction of a regional power protecting what it understands is its turf, and security interest.
Ah, the famous bit of international law that allows a pre-emptive strike at a nation in defense of what one "understands" to be its turf and its security interest. Some people think bush just made that up to invade Iraq.
All that may well have been no more than NATO probing Russia's ability and willingness to defend her interests, with costs to the tune of thousands of deaths, and an economy in the east largely in ruins.
Not that you are defending Russian imperialism by blaming NATO ...
Had Putin an ally in Mexico, and went to establish a military alliance, the US would react in exactly the same way, and you know it. Neither amounts to a justification, dummy, that's just a statement of fact depicting the political and military reality.
Not even trump is stupid enough to invade Mexico over Putin influencing Mexican media. Hell, he wouldn't even defend America against it. That kind of wild hysteria reminds me of somebody. Now, who was it?
Do I have to inform you that your Odorum impression is just pathetic? Adolf?
Fuck you.
That's it! Right down to the impotent "Fuck you" at the end of the rant. Thanks.