U.S. Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Bill

Malarkeyville

June 7, 201710:37 AM ET

Celia Llopis-Jepsen


Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.
A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


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The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.

"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."

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Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.

Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.

With a tax plan complete and new school finance formula sent to the governor, the Legislature still must agree on the state budget.

It was the second time this session the governor sought to block legislation that would unravel 2012 tax changes and raise revenue through a three-bracket income tax structure. The first time, in February, lawmakers fell three votes short in the Senate of pushing past his opposition.

The veto nearly survived this time, too: Though the House exceeded the override threshold by four votes, the Senate results came in at exactly the minimum needed.

State Rep. Barbara Ballard, a Lawrence Democrat, described feeling tremendous relief, and said she believes many Kansans will share that sensation.

"Now we have a source of money. Then we can work our way out of the hole that we're in," she said. "It's almost like you can breathe."

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Mopping it up

Senate Majority Leader Jim Denning said lawmakers had known since May 2014 that the tax cuts were leading to fiscal woes and not playing out as intended. He said while he voted for the 2012 changes, he believes in cleaning up one's messes in life and planned to cast his vote accordingly.

"I'm going to mop it up," he said.

Conservative Republican state Sen. Dennis Pyle drew on the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty in his appeal that colleagues uphold the veto. He suggested some lawmakers might think Brownback is like the main character in that poem, but it is in fact the spend-happy legislators who are shattered.

"They continue to want more and more," he said. "They want to interfere in people's lives."

The tax plan sets three income tax tiers: 3.1 percent, 5.25 percent and 5.7 percent. Kansas currently has two rates, 2.6 percent and 4.6 percent, for tax year 2018.

Much of the impassioned debate in the Senate came from conservative opponents of the bill, while many moderate Republicans and Democrats sat silent. Those who rose to comment rejected conservatives' claims that increasing taxes defies common sense.

"From our side of the aisle, that tax plan didn't receive a single vote," Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley said of the 2012 cuts, adding that Democrats had foreseen repercussions for the state's financial health.

State Sen. Tom Holland, a Democrat, said Kansas had been riding "the crazy train" and was long overdue for a solution.
 
The Kansas disastrous experiment left Governor Brokeback and his trickle-down theorists in dumbfounded in disbelief .

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And on a sidenote, I heard many California Republicans wail that if Jerry Brown raised taxes it would crash the economy.

Undoubtedly wingnuts did not expect California's budget to balance and economy to take off in the face of a tax hike, while in contrast Kansas budget blew up and their economy was anemic in the face of tax cuts.

Come to think of it, I am pretty sure there were dire economic predictions from wingnuts when Obama raised taxes on the well off.

It really doesn't seem like wingnuts are often right, does it?
 
And on a sidenote, I heard many California Republicans wail that if Jerry Brown raised taxes it would crash the economy.

Undoubtedly wingnuts did not expect California's budget to balance and economy to take off in the face of a tax hike, while in contrast Kansas budget blew up and their economy was anemic in the face of tax cuts.

Come to think of it, I am pretty sure there were dire economic predictions from wingnuts when Obama raised taxes on the well off.

It really doesn't seem like wingnuts are often right, does it?

We have huge structural issues in California with unfunded liabilities so we can't talk about the state of the California economy and leave those out.

We have problems retaining certain businesses because their employees can't afford to live here. It's great if you already own your home but good luck to someone trying to move here today. We also have the highest poverty rate in the nation. Clearly boosting tax rates doesn't take care of that.

I'd be careful when using the term wingnuts when discussing economics in California. We have a lot of great things in our state but we have some very serious issues as well.
 
And on a sidenote, I heard many California Republicans wail that if Jerry Brown raised taxes it would crash the economy.

Undoubtedly wingnuts did not expect California's budget to balance and economy to take off in the face of a tax hike, while in contrast Kansas budget blew up and their economy was anemic in the face of tax cuts.

Come to think of it, I am pretty sure there were dire economic predictions from wingnuts when Obama raised taxes on the well off.

It really doesn't seem like wingnuts are often right, does it?

oh I hadn't heard.......did California fund its pension shortage after all?.....
 
Senate Majority Leader Jim Denning said lawmakers had known since May 2014 that the tax cuts were leading to fiscal woes and not playing out as intended. He said while he voted for the 2012 changes, he believes in cleaning up one's messes in life and planned to cast his vote accordingly.

"I'm going to mop it up," he said.

It seems to be an article of religious faith for rightwing extremists that these so called "supply side" tax cuts for the rich schemes somehow all work, and facts be damned.

It is worth remembering that Saint Ronnie Raygun's massived tax cuts for the rich in 1981 were followed in 1982 to 83 by the worst Post WW2 recession in history (until Dumbya's 2008 Great Recession), and resulted in massive budget deficits. And that accordingly, Reagan later became one of the greatest tax and revenue raisers in history to plug the gaps he created.
 
It seems to be an article of religious faith for rightwing extremists that these so called "supply side" tax cuts for the rich schemes somehow all work, and facts be damned.

It is worth remembering that Saint Ronnie Raygun's massived tax cuts for the rich in 1981 were followed in 1982 to 83 by the worst Post WW2 recession in history (until Dumbya's 2008 Great Recession), and resulted in massive budget deficits. And that accordingly, Reagan later became one of the greatest tax and revenue raisers in history to plug the gaps he created.

If we want to argue facts tax cuts didn't create the '82 recession, Volker crushing inflation did and it was a step that needed to be taken.

We're JFK's tax cuts extreminism to you? Because they were of the supply side variety
 
That fact seems to be missed by some :whome:

The lemmings will follow him over the cliff & clap for him all the way to the bottom..........

I paid a lot to go to USC and not be a lemming. But lowering taxes makes me that?
 
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