What's the liberal solution to Islamic terrorism?

Thing1 said:
You talking about Obama? He tried to clean up the mess Bush & you made there. But apparently, that was supposed to be a "forever war," and we could never take the troops out even after a decade.
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Yes, Obama was a total failure. Obama attacked 7 countries and created his own disastrous JV team.

Wrong, I never supported Bush or invading Iraq, Loser.

What did the Clintons do that caused the first WTC bombing?
 
Darth Omar said:
A man who was forced to live in a cave and ultimately died in his own house at the hands of Seal Team 6 didn't put his life on the line?

Really?
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Um - yeah, really. Certainly not like a suicide bomber.

If you guys can't make the connection between poverty & terrorism, you need to go back & take terrorism 101 again. Really, you shouldn't even be discussing the topic.
 
Thing1 said:
Um - yeah, really. Certainly not like a suicide bomber.

If you guys can't make the connection between poverty & terrorism, you need to go back & take terrorism 101 again. Really, you shouldn't even be discussing the topic.
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Yet the bombers are not from remote dirt poor villages in the MidEast. They all have cell phones and internet access :palm: Most of the 9/11 terrorists had college degrees, and your hero OBL grew up Mega rich :palm:
 
Terrorism is a complicated issue that largely centers around how society is structured in the regional societies. Factors such as lack of employment and substandard living conditions are some of the largest factors. Religion is often an organizing excuse and banner by which disaffected people are drawn in. Dictators in the Middle East, propped up by the West in many cases, have effectively destroyed their societies. Rampant corruption within government is one of the main reasons terrorism exists. Islamic purity (extremism) is supposed to be a solution to this corruption.

I don't really want to throw around insults today, but to be EXTREMELY polite, I do think this is a more complex issue than Trump supporters can handle.
 
Amadeus, you're soooo wrong :palm:

ISIS comes in, grabs power and instills Sharia Law.
 
Bigdog said:
Amadeus, you're soooo wrong :palm:

ISIS comes in, grabs power and instills Sharia Law.
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You are so out of your depth it's embarrassing. The Trumpian solution of banning Muslims or killing terrorist families or bombing them into submission is a loser solution. It doesn't work and exponentially increases the problem. It isn't the solution of an adult.
 
OBL's main impetus was the breaking of Sharia Law by the Saudi gov't, specifically ... allowing infidels on Holy Land.
 
Amadeus said:
You are so out of your depth it's embarrassing. The Trumpian solution of banning Muslims or killing terrorist families or bombing them into submission is a loser solution. It doesn't work and exponentially increases the problem. It isn't the solution of an adult.
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The hysterical liberals are the ones in the American streets throwing violent temper tantrums and trying to shut down free speech. That's an adult solution? :rofl2:

Trump hasn't killed any terrorist familes, but Obama HAS.

As a leftwing socialist pig, maybe you can tell me, ... why are you sooo afraid of offending such a peaceful religion? ... while you claim that Christians are worse, yet you do everything in your power to offend THEM?
 
Thing1 said:
You talking about Obama? He tried to clean up the mess Bush & you made there. But apparently, that was supposed to be a "forever war," and we could never take the troops out even after a decade.
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and a cadet just out of the academy would have known that.
Make no mistake about it Obama was a mental midget when it came to the world order.

ISIS formed under his nose remember, the "JV".
And Syria was emboldened by his false red lines, Russia laughed at him when he spoke.

Obama may have been the worse leader of the free world , ever if you rely on the state of security everywhere as evidence.

America once led in matters of world security, Obamas policy was give them a hug.
So we are where we are.
Trump has a lot of work to do but he is off to a pretty good start (See his world trip and the welcome from leaders as he makes his way)
They are desperate for American resolve
 
It's impossible to have an honest dialogue w/ many on the right when it comes to terrorism - always has been. This started in 2003; the left opposed the Iraq War, and we were told we didn't understand how to fight terrorism, and that we were on the wrong side of history. The right shut the discussion down with the same thing we're hearing from Bigdog now...that we were terrorist sympathizers, blah blah blah.

And who ended up being 100% RIGHT about that one? How's about that? You guys even voted for a Prez who said that Iraq was a major blunder.

But here you are, doing it again. Not understanding the problem one iota, and it definitely looks like you didn't learn a single lesson from that experience. Just repeating the same mistakes.
 
Bigdog said:
Trump hasn't killed any terrorist familes, but Obama HAS.
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He sure has, via collateral damage. Trump campaigned on targeting terrorist families. What's the difference? One violates the Geneva Convention and is a war crime. Guess which one?

Simply put, there is no amount of killing that will end terrorism -- whether it's Obama or Trump. There are ways to increase the threat of terrorism, which Trump has proposed because he's a 70 man-child.
 
Amadeus said:
You are so out of your depth it's embarrassing. The Trumpian solution of banning Muslims or killing terrorist families or bombing them into submission is a loser solution. It doesn't work and exponentially increases the problem. It isn't the solution of an adult.
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so what is the solution? you mental midget.
play nice nice? talk to them? give them stuff, invite them over for tea.

I suggest you pick subjects you actually have solutions on
 
Thing1 said:
It's impossible to have an honest dialogue w/ many on the right when it comes to terrorism - always has been. This started in 2003; the left opposed the Iraq War, and we were told we didn't understand how to fight terrorism, and that we were on the wrong side of history. The right shut the discussion down with the same thing we're hearing from Bigdog now...that we were terrorist sympathizers, blah blah blah.

And who ended up being 100% RIGHT about that one? How's about that? You guys even voted for a Prez who said that Iraq was a major blunder.

But here you are, doing it again. Not understanding the problem one iota, and it definitely looks like you didn't learn a single lesson from that experience. Just repeating the same mistakes.
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and this is where you tell us your idea of dealing with terror right?
 
Getin the ring said:
and this is where you tell us your idea of dealing with terror right?
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There are a lot of great ways to address terror. It starts with good intel - and good intel starts with maintaining outstanding relationships with not only Muslim allies but Muslim communities in the U.S. and throughout the world. Trump is doing some of the former, and I give him props for that - but he's also alienating Muslim communities w/ his rhetoric about Islam.

And that part is why Obama was careful w/ the rhetoric. It wasn't "PC." It was because we need good relationships in that community. We don't want to play into the terrorist's hands by fulfilling their wish of making it a war on Islam.

Long-term goals should be centered around improving education & economies in those areas of the world. Whether you like it or not, poverty & ignorance are very big contributors and something terrorist groups rely on for recruitment. That doesn't mean that we can't bomb & kill as many terrorists as we can (and Obama did, btw). But that's hardly a solution. You talk about terrorists like that is a finite # that we can just eliminate. Unless we address the causes, there will always be new ones.

That's just a start. Actions like Iraq were extremely counter-productive. That was basically exactly what OBL was hoping for - I don't know how anyone can make a credible argument that invading Iraq helped to reduce terrorism.
 
Thing1 said:
The right shut the discussion down with the same thing we're hearing from Bigdog now...that we were terrorist sympathizers, blah blah blah.
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I already stated I did not support the invasion of Iraq. Your lack of reading comprehension is stupefying :palm: The Iraq invasion did have bipartisan support! Stop with the lies! This all began under Clinton and the first WTC bombing. Stop with the lies!
 
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