Health Care Is Not A Right!

You are confused by totalitarian socialism.
Insurance schemes are voluntary socialism/ capitalism regulated by the government to protect the interests of the public participants.
That is not Marxism, but it is socialism.

I'll break ranks with you just slightly. It's my understanding that socialism includes some element of government ownership of production means in certain key industries, perhaps those that in economics are considered natural monopolies. This can occur by means of either social contract through free or fair elections or totalitarian force after revolution, whatever the means.

To me, insurance and socialism are analogous. I think of private insurance meaning the pooling of risks to indemnify an insured against perils enumerated in a policy declaration that may occur during the term of the contract between individual insureds and the insurer. It includes the concept of subrogation of the insurer to the rights of the insured against the tortfeasor, or as to the property that may have been only partially destroyed. By no means does this describe a ponzi scheme that smarterthanfew described. Ponzi is based on undercapitalization and a scheme for simple theft. Insurance has reserve requirements and are highly regulated. The payment on a policy does not depend on the ability of an insurer to con new investors.
 
I'll break ranks with you just slightly. It's my understanding that socialism includes some element of government ownership of production means in certain key industries, perhaps those that in economics are considered natural monopolies. This can occur by means of either social contract through free or fair elections or totalitarian force after revolution, whatever the means.

To me, insurance and socialism are analogous. I think of private insurance meaning the pooling of risks to indemnify an insured against perils enumerated in a policy declaration that may occur during the term of the contract between individual insureds and the insurer. It includes the concept of subrogation of the insurer to the rights of the insured against the tortfeasor, or as to the property that may have been only partially destroyed. By no means does this describe a ponzi scheme that smarterthanfew described. Ponzi is based on undercapitalization and a scheme for simple theft. Insurance has reserve requirements and are highly regulated. The payment on a policy does not depend on the ability of an insurer to con new investors.

Yup.
Can't believe STY can't differentiate.
A ponsi scheme relies on new investment.
An insurance policy relies on continued payments.
The two are not even distantly related.
 
Yup.
Can't believe STY can't differentiate.
A ponsi scheme relies on new investment.
An insurance policy relies on continued payments.
The two are not even distantly related.

Social security is a gobblement sponsored Ponzi scheme. It is one of the reasons global elites want all the low wage spics. So they can bolster the coffers. Almost like slavery when you think about it

Bring all these low wage spics over so they can fund you not working?
 
Social security is a gobblement sponsored Ponzi scheme. It is one of the reasons global elites want all the low wage spics. So they can bolster the coffers. Almost like slavery when you think about it

Bring all these low wage spics over so they can fund you not working?

It is highly popular and has functioned transparently for 100 years. It has never defaulted on an obligation. Is there any subject you can't use as a prop for your racism? I will agree that a system that does not consider population fluctuation is ill-conceived. Can you at least admit to its admirable purpose and performance? I'll be pleased to get a check when its my time. If I don't live that long, good for you.

Republican-empathy- zero.

You people are reptilian. Very sad.
 
It is highly popular and has functioned transparently for 100 years. It has never defaulted on an obligation. Is there any subject you can't use as a prop for your racism? I will agree that a system that does not consider population fluctuation is ill-conceived. Can you at least admit to its admirable purpose and performance? I'll be pleased to get a check when its my time. If I don't live that long, good for you.

Republican-empathy- zero.

You people are reptilian. Very sad.

Sorry, but I don't give credit for good intentions and wanting to make a difference. Hitler made a difference.

Socialist insecurity is a Ponzi scheme that is failing
 
That's the crux of it. Everything Republicans want they say is integral to what government is about, and everything they don't want they call socialism, meanwhile they use the whole of it unaware, like flicking a lightswitch walking into a dark room. They won't realise they are socialists by their own measure until the power goes out.

They had electric lights in Nazi Germany! We know far more about Socialism in practice, dear Jeremy Corbyn wants to takes us all back to the 1970s. I wouldn't be surprised if Theresa May gets a majority of 150.

https://www.ft.com/content/501e33b0-fcdc-11e6-8d8e-a5e3738f9ae4

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I'll break ranks with you just slightly. It's my understanding that socialism includes some element of government ownership of production means in certain key industries, perhaps those that in economics are considered natural monopolies. This can occur by means of either social contract through free or fair elections or totalitarian force after revolution, whatever the means.

To me, insurance and socialism are analogous. I think of private insurance meaning the pooling of risks to indemnify an insured against perils enumerated in a policy declaration that may occur during the term of the contract between individual insureds and the insurer. It includes the concept of subrogation of the insurer to the rights of the insured against the tortfeasor, or as to the property that may have been only partially destroyed. By no means does this describe a ponzi scheme that smarterthanfew described. Ponzi is based on undercapitalization and a scheme for simple theft. Insurance has reserve requirements and are highly regulated. The payment on a policy does not depend on the ability of an insurer to con new investors.
I don't think you people actually know the difference between social democracy and Socialism!

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...3/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism/471630/

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Two sides of the same coin. You can play all the semantics you want but at the end of the day you are taking property/wealth from one individual and giving it to another. In essence stealing their labor which is slavery
Yet you claim to be religious, doesn't JC teach people to look after the sick and the poor?

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Two sides of the same coin. You can play all the semantics you want but at the end of the day you are taking property/wealth from one individual and giving it to another. In essence stealing their labor which is slavery

Your momma could have born you in a hospital and sent you to public school on public roads too.
 
Why isn't the government providing housing ... left wingers? Housing is directly linked to healthcare.

Shouldn't the government provide it?
 
Yet you claim to be religious, doesn't JC teach people to look after the sick and the poor?

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I always love this lame argument thrown out by people who eschew Jesus teachings.

First of all yes Jesus teaches us to take care of the less fortunate. However I am unable to find anything in his teachings that say you should steal from another to do it. Can you?

Secondly, your presumption is that government is the ONLY way to help people in need. Maybe that is how you have been conditioned
 
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