Rolling Stone writer gets it

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Darth Omar

Russian asset
Moreover, even those who detest Trump with every fiber of their being must see the dangerous endgame implicit in this entire line of thinking. If the Democrats succeed in spreading the idea that straying from the DNC-approved candidate – in either the past or the future – is/was an act of "unwitting" cooperation with the evil Putin regime, then the entire idea of legitimate dissent is going to be in trouble.

Imagine it's four years from now (if indeed that's when we have our next election). A Democratic candidate stands before the stump, and announces that a consortium of intelligence experts has concluded that Putin is backing the hippie/anti-war/anti-corporate opposition candidate.

Or, even better: that same candidate reminds us "what happened last time" when people decided to vote their consciences during primary season. It will be argued, in seriousness, that true Americans will owe their votes to the non-Putin candidate. It would be a shock if some version of this didn't become an effective political trope going forward.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-putin-derangement-syndrome-arrives-w474771
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'Putin derangement syndrome'.

I wish I would have coined that because it describes the current state of affairs on the left and in the media. I don't know if the media/left complex is aware of the down the road consequences to their Russian witch hunt.

Or if they know but don't care so long as Trump is taken down.
 
Darth Omar said:
Moreover, even those who detest Trump with every fiber of their being must see the dangerous endgame implicit in this entire line of thinking. If the Democrats succeed in spreading the idea that straying from the DNC-approved candidate – in either the past or the future – is/was an act of "unwitting" cooperation with the evil Putin regime, then the entire idea of legitimate dissent is going to be in trouble.

Imagine it's four years from now (if indeed that's when we have our next election). A Democratic candidate stands before the stump, and announces that a consortium of intelligence experts has concluded that Putin is backing the hippie/anti-war/anti-corporate opposition candidate.

Or, even better: that same candidate reminds us "what happened last time" when people decided to vote their consciences during primary season. It will be argued, in seriousness, that true Americans will owe their votes to the non-Putin candidate. It would be a shock if some version of this didn't become an effective political trope going forward.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-putin-derangement-syndrome-arrives-w474771
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'Putin derangement syndrome'.

I wish I would have coined that because it describes the current state of affairs on the left and in the media. I don't know if the media/left complex is aware of the down the road consequences to their Russian witch hunt.

Or if they know but don't care so long as Trump is taken down.
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I prefer Putin InSanity Syndrome or PISS.

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Another one to bump if anything comes of the investigation.

And yeah - they SHOULD investigate it. I know you guys get all whiney when the shoe is on the other foot, but it is what it is.
 
Darth Omar said:
Moreover, even those who detest Trump with every fiber of their being must see the dangerous endgame implicit in this entire line of thinking. If the Democrats succeed in spreading the idea that straying from the DNC-approved candidate – in either the past or the future – is/was an act of "unwitting" cooperation with the evil Putin regime, then the entire idea of legitimate dissent is going to be in trouble.

Imagine it's four years from now (if indeed that's when we have our next election). A Democratic candidate stands before the stump, and announces that a consortium of intelligence experts has concluded that Putin is backing the hippie/anti-war/anti-corporate opposition candidate.

Or, even better: that same candidate reminds us "what happened last time" when people decided to vote their consciences during primary season. It will be argued, in seriousness, that true Americans will owe their votes to the non-Putin candidate. It would be a shock if some version of this didn't become an effective political trope going forward.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-putin-derangement-syndrome-arrives-w474771
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'Putin derangement syndrome'.

I wish I would have coined that because it describes the current state of affairs on the left and in the media. I don't know if the media/left complex is aware of the down the road consequences to their Russian witch hunt.

Or if they know but don't care so long as Trump is taken down.
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I like Taibbi, but all the "what ifs" are suppositional bullshit.
 
I ve been "outed" as a possible paid Putin plant by the infamous "PropOrNot" group, which is supposedly dedicated to rooting out Russian "agents of influence."
You might remember PropOrNot as the illustrious research team the Washington Post once relied on for a report that accused 200 alternative websites of being "routine peddlers of Russian propaganda during the election season."

Politicians are getting into the act, too. It was one thing when Rand Paul balked at OKing the expansion of NATO to Montenegro, and John McCain didn't hesitate to say that "the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin."

Even Bernie Sanders has himself been accused of being a Putin plant by Mensch. But even he's gotten on board of late, asking, "What do the Russians have on Mr. Trump?"

So even people who themselves have been accused of being Russian plants are now accusing people of being Russian plants. As the Russians would say, it's enough to make your bashka hurt.
 
What if reality does turn out to be a massive connect-the-dots image of St. Basil's Cathedral sitting atop the White House? :rofl2:

the aforementioned Mensch, tabbed everyone from Jeff Sessions ("a Russian partisan") to Rudy Giuliani and former Assistant FBI Director James Kallstrom ("agents of influence") to Glenn Greenwald ("Russian shill") to ProPublica and Democracy Now! (also "Russian shills"), to the 15-year-old girl with whom Anthony Weiner sexted (really, she says, a Russian hacker group called "Crackas With Attitudes") to an unnamed number of FBI agents in the New York field office ("moles"). And that's just for starters. :whoa:
 
Thing1 said:
Another one to bump if anything comes of the investigation.

And yeah - they SHOULD investigate it. I know you guys get all whiney when the shoe is on the other foot, but it is what it is.
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Let them investigate it. And they can investigate Susan Rice while they're at it.

But the writers point is the media is out of control with it: they're in it with both feet in spite of the fact they're still looking for evidence.

That's more damaging to democracy than anything the Russians might have done.
 
anatta said:
What if reality does turn out to be a massive connect-the-dots image of St. Basil's Cathedral sitting atop the White House? :rofl2:

the aforementioned Mensch, tabbed everyone from Jeff Sessions ("a Russian partisan") to Rudy Giuliani and former Assistant FBI Director James Kallstrom ("agents of influence") to Glenn Greenwald ("Russian shill") to ProPublica and Democracy Now! (also "Russian shills"), to the 15-year-old girl with whom Anthony Weiner sexted (really, she says, a Russian hacker group called "Crackas With Attitudes") to an unnamed number of FBI agents in the New York field office ("moles"). And that's just for starters. :whoa:
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It's beyond absurd.
 
Darth Omar said:
Let them investigate it. And they can investigate Susan Rice while they're at it.

But the writers point is the media is out of control with it: they're in it with both feet in spite of the fact they're still looking for evidence.

That's more damaging to democracy than anything the Russians might have done.
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I like that. Nice!
 
Darth Omar said:
Yes, I believe the media has more influence on our democracy than the Russians lol.

Like to think that would be sort of obvious.
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don't forget the 4th amendment -unmasking has to be important enough to over-ride expectation of privacy
 
moon2012 said:
You have great difficulty in discerning opinion from fact- so how do you know which this is ?
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Look wannabe terrorist. You have been proven to be full of shit. Deal with it and move on. You were more of a temporary distraction to me than anything else. You really are not worth having a conversation with. Just, well, to uneducated and delusional.
 
Sailor said:
Look wannabe terrorist. You have been proven to be full of shit. Deal with it and move on. You were more of a temporary distraction to me than anything else. You really are not worth having a conversation with. Just, well, to uneducated and delusional.
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You stuck your dick in the wasps nest, kapo- now it's time for the consequences.
 
Thing1 said:
Another one to bump if anything comes of the investigation.

And yeah - they SHOULD investigate it. I know you guys get all whiney when the shoe is on the other foot, but it is what it is.
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If I were a senator, I would sign-on to an investigation just for the lulz.
 
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