GOP health care bill has been pulled. There will be no vote.

TTQ64 said:
Nonsense.

Obamacare will flourish even more than it is now.

Only simpleminded idiots think its failing.
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The Federal govt owes billions to the insurance companies that was promised, but never paid. In exchange for forcing them to cover myriad costly issues/procedures, the Risk Corridor Program was put in place to get insurers past the first 3 years of the law.

House Republicans de funded this by sneaking it into an omnibus defense bill. That's the only reason insurers are pulling out of the exchanges. They are out billions, and the Feds won't pay.

If the goal was to truly provide affordable healthcare to Americans, Republicans can patch the funding holes they created, and keep ACA solid until they sit down and fix it along with Dems.


This was always about one thing....repealing the cap gains taxation on the wealthy that goes to fund ACA. That lowers the baseline on cap gains so that the future tax cut will be even more of a handout.

You can't reverse engineer a law as complex as healthcare.
 
TTQ64 said:
And you are an extreme liar. There are several right wing states who opted out of the exchanges, you ignorant fuck

The only way Obamacare fails is if the racist GOPIgs defund it.
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To be fair....almost all, if not all Red state governors refused to create an exchange. Some didn't take the Medicaid expansion...but opted in after their constituents demanded it. Others took it, and motherfucked ACA every day anywaty.

But...in the states that didn't create an exchange, the Feds stepped in and created one. That's prob. what annata was talking about.

blackascoal said:
"The vast majority of marketplace enrollees have experienced no average premium hike at all." *
— Barack Obama on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017 in a statement on the 7th anniversary of the Affordable Care Act

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"Reality continues to discredit the false claim that this law is in a ‘death spiral,’ because while it’s true that some premiums have risen, the vast majority of Marketplace enrollees have experienced no average premium hike at all," he wrote.

We decided to vet the assertion that on average, the vast majority of people who signed up on a federal or state marketplaces saw no premium hike at all.

Government numbers back that up, although the meaning of "vast majority" lies in the beholder. And it’s not as though premiums didn’t rise. They did, but most people purchasing health care through the marketplace didn’t feel it.

"Enrollments are largely holding steady," she said. "There is no death spiral."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...no-premium-hike-vast-majority-covered-govern/
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My rates doubled. After I lost my insurance company due to the funding cuts I've referenced already in other threads.

Granted, my rates for the first 3 years under ACA were the best of my life, and the coverage was amazing. My current premiums are still lower than quotes I was getting in the individual market before ACA was passed.


edit to add....the subsidies kept premiums from rising for those who take the subsidy.
 
Althea said:
To be fair....almost all, if not all Red state governors refused to create an exchange. Some didn't take the Medicaid expansion...but opted in after their constituents demanded it. Others took it, and motherfucked ACA every day anywaty.

But...in the states that didn't create an exchange, the Feds stepped in and created one. That's prob. what annata was talking about.

My rates doubled. After I lost my insurance company due to the funding cuts I've referenced already in other threads.

Granted, my rates for the first 3 years under ACA were the best of my life, and the coverage was amazing. My current premiums are still lower than quotes I was getting in the individual market before ACA was passed.


edit to add....the subsidies kept premiums from rising for those who take the subsidy.
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Fair enough.

But the fact remains it is the right who does not want health care for all, for what ever reason.

They hate anything that they think will cost them profits and help Blacks, minorities and the poor.
 
TTQ64 said:
So you expect the government to provide health care for you.......figures.
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Look ASSHOLE.
I have advocated Single Pay since before Obamacare, during Obamacare - when Hillary was all squishy-
and now after the fail of Trumpcare.
Gawd damn you are one dumb sister- I sincerely hope you don't breed your stupidity.
 
anatta said:
you are confused as usual. Many states did not set up STATE RUN exchanges, but they still are eligible for Obama care run subsidies.

Look. I think it's all crap without Single Pay, we are paying the insurance companies to deliver HC for a profit -why do this at all?
It's not going to be defunded -it's yet another entitlement we can't pay for, and the costs are very uneven
Do the Repubs have a better idea? no.

The real problem as usual is hyper-partisanship where the parties will never work on any improving it.

I personally don't care. I lived almost all my life without insurance,and in a little more then 2 years I get Medicade.
It's not my mess to be concerned about ( one of the few benefits of aging)
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Precisely what we've come to expect from out of the mouth of a GOP voter:

"I got mine, you can go F**K yourself."
 
anatta said:
you lying piece of crap.
I have always supported SP- while you were supporting Hillary, I was supporting Bernie and SP.
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You're so brainwashed you don't even see the irony of your post.

That went right over your big ass head.
 
anatta said:
you lying piece of crap.
I have always supported SP- while you were supporting Hillary, I was supporting Bernie and SP.
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FUCK YOU BITCH :0)

I don't give a rats ass about what you claim to support. You support Trump and all the factions that doesn't support ANY healthcare.

I was supporting single-payer / Medicare for All before Obamacare and during the Obamacare debate .. you dumb ass right-wing Trump ass-licking motherfucker who is too dumb to know that Hillary supported single-payer.

Another right-wing dummy now looking for help from the government you hate. :0)
 
blackascoal said:
FUCK YOU BITCH :0)

I don't give a rats ass about what you claim to support. You support Trump and all the factions that doesn't support ANY healthcare.

I was supporting single-payer / Medicare for All before Obamacare and during the Obamacare debate .. you dumb ass right-wing Trump ass-licking motherfucker who is too dumb to know that Hillary supported single-payer.

Another right-wing dummy now looking for help from the government you hate. :0)
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Yup! I was there for it all.

He's a fraud.
 
blackascoal said:
FUCK YOU BITCH :0)

I don't give a rats ass about what you claim to support. You support Trump and all the factions that doesn't support ANY healthcare.

I was supporting single-payer / Medicare for All before Obamacare and during the Obamacare debate .. you dumb ass right-wing Trump ass-licking motherfucker who is too dumb to know that Hillary supported single-payer.

Another right-wing dummy now looking for help from the government you hate. :0)
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Fuck you and your neocon support of Hillary -the single most important voice in the destruction of Libya.
Have you bothered to read anything of late? The FREAKING Russians are now calling the shots!
the FREAKING Russians are putting in troops!
You know- that big bad Putin you cry about while you espouse NATO expansion and escalation?
Hillary was the best thing to ever happen to Putin along with Obama
You're not only a liar, you are a hypocrite of the first order.

Why do you think Hilary was eventually dragged into mouthing support for SP?
It's because Bernie was beating her up with it.
Hillary has less of a moral compass then even a warpig like you. you fucking neocon.

Unlike you I can act independently- i can pick and chose my support instead of blind hating as my modus operandi.
Hillary has no core. She is a plutocratic, big donor driven , serial liar - which is why you get next to her.
 
anatta said:
more lies. I've never taken a dime for healthcare.
You are a scurrilous liar needing to twink with TTQ to validate your lies
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BOO!

The Blacks are ganging up on you.

You better run.

So your broke ass is one of the people going into the emergency rooms for care, then stiffing the bill.

I don't want my tax dollars going to help you.......
 
TTQ64 said:
BOO!
The Blacks are ganging up on you.
You better run.
So your broke ass is one of the people going into the emergency rooms for care, then stiffing the bill.
I don't want my tax dollars going to help you.......
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at least BAC has brain function. You've been a flatliner since the first words out of your ignorant mouth.
I pay all my bills, fuck you and your racialism
 
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