Where there's smoke there's fire

I know how to spell it was a typo.
Hilarious you say this crap with your foggy Russian collusion memes

Apparently you're as careless with your typing as you are with your supposed "research".

Seventeen intelligence agencies say there is reasonable suspicion that Trump is more deeply involved with the Russian government than he admits.

If you want to call that a "foggy collusion meme" to cover Comrade Trumpsky's ass, knock yourself out.
 
Apparently you're as careless with your typing as you are with your supposed "research".

Seventeen intelligence agencies say there is reasonable suspicion that Trump is more deeply involved with the Russian government than he admits.

If you want to call that a "foggy collusion meme" to cover Comrade Trumpsky's ass, knock yourself out.
ridiculous stupid. in your mind maybe.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion according to the last IC report.

They say nothing about "reasonable suspicion" of Trump's involvement with Russian governemnts.
It's made up in your brain

all they have said is there is consensus in the US intelligence community that Russia’s operation (DNC/Podesta) was designed in part to help Trump
 
ridiculous stupid. in your mind maybe.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion according to the last IC report.

They say nothing about "reasonable suspicion" of Trump's involvement with Russian governemnts.
It's made up in your brain

all they have said is there is consensus in the US intelligence community that Russia’s operation (DNC/Podesta) was designed in part to help Trump

Keep sucking down the Kommie Kool Aid, Trumpskyite.


6 different agencies have come together to investigate Trump's possible Russia ties

New reports indicate it’s been going on since last spring.

Updated by Zeeshan Aleem Jan 21, 2017, 9:30am EST

Donald Trump has dismissed allegations that he’s in some way connected to Russian attempts to influence the presidential election as nothing but a*“political witch hunt.”

But a number of reports in the past couple of weeks have revealed that according to unnamed sources, investigators from six different US intelligence and law enforcement agencies have been looking into possible links between Russian officials and Trump’s presidential campaign as far back as last spring.

Reports from BBC, McClatchy, the New York Times, and others make distinct but overlapping claims about the collaborative investigation into a host of questions about the Trump team’s possible connections with the Kremlin.

BBC’s report claims that an interagency group was created when the CIA director last April allegedly received “a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.” The McClatchy report says the interagency group is looking into whether the Kremlin itself funneled money to hackers as part of Russia’s attempt to covertly help Trump win his campaign. And the Times report says that key former Trump advisers are being scrutinized closely for potential links with Moscow.

Crucially, all the reports indicate that this investigation began before the FBI was fed the now-infamous dossier alleging that Russian operatives had sensitive information that would embarrass and undermine Trump, and that there was “a continuing exchange of information during the [presidential] campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.”

The new reports offer no insight into the claims made in the dossier, but they do show that many in the US intelligence community are taking claims about Trump’s links to Russia very seriously. And if they were to find concrete evidence of links between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, it would have the potential to unravel Trump’s entire presidency.

For that reason, it’s quite likely that they could be stonewalled as Trump’s appointees to head these agencies take their posts — in fact, the New York Times said that its sources spoke to reporters precisely because they feared that Trump would do just that.

Here’s a quick rundown of what we know so far, what we don’t, and how Trump could shut down the whole investigation.

The intelligence community is concerned about Trump-Russia links

It’s worth stepping back and noting that at this point there’s a consensus in the intelligence community that the Kremlin was behind the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.

Earlier in January, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declassified a report that concluded with “high confidence” — based on intelligence gathered by the FBI, CIA, and NSA — that Russia’s Vladimir Putin oversaw an “influence campaign” designed to interfere in the 2016 election. The report explicitly stated that the intention was to denigrate the US electoral process, hurt Clinton’s chances, and raise Trump’s.

What these emerging reports suggest, though, is that officials in several US intelligence agencies have evidently decided that it’s worth investigating the possibility of links between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

The BBC report, published on January 12, claims that after the CIA was allegedly shown a tape with a compromising conversation about money being funneled from the Kremlin to Trump’s campaign, a joint task force was formed. Personnel from the FBI, CIA, National Security Agency, Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and representatives of the director of national intelligence formed an interagency working group to look into the matter.

According to the BBC, the interagency group obtained a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the highly secretive US court that overseas warrants related to national security investigations, to intercept electronic records from two Russian banks. A lawyer familiar with the case told the BBC that three of Trump’s associates were the primary targets of the inquiry, but that ultimately “it's clear this is about Trump.”

The McClatchy report, published on Tuesday, claims that the joint task force’s investigation looked into, among other things, “how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win.” This includes looking into whether the Kremlin may have sent money to the hackers of the DNC servers and Podesta’s email address to help get Trump elected.

According to the report, “One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers.”

The Times report says the working group is analyzing “intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a larger inquiry into links between Russian officials and Trump’s associates.

The Times piece also specifically names three former Trump advisers in particular who its sources say are under the magnifying glass: Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair; Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser for Trump; and Roger Stone, a former key adviser for Trump. Trump’s camp and the former advisers denied the possible links discussed in the New York Times report.

So far the reports all indicate that these links are possibilities that are being investigated. We don’t know that any of these connections this interagency group is reportedly investigating will actually materialize — or how well-grounded the concerns are. It does appear, though, that they’re substantial enough to merit the sustained attention of a six-agency task force.

The crucial question now is whether they’ll continue their investigations, or if the new Trump administration will take measures to disband the group, as some of its members seem to think they will.

Idiot.
 
Keep sucking down the Kommie Kool Aid, Trumpskyite.
Idiot.

gawd you are so mendacious. You post about the "17 intelligence agencies" which can ONLY mean the IC report.
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Seventeen intelligence agencies say there is reasonable suspicion that Trump is more deeply involved with the Russian government than he admits.
Then you call me an idiot, and quote a report about a 6 inter-agency joint task force and call me an idiot?
WTF is wrong with you?

How about the Congressional Intelligence Committees investigation ? I mean what is your POINT here?

Of course there are investigations - but as has been repeatedly banged into your brain there is no evidence of collusion!
 
ridiculous stupid. in your mind maybe.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion according to the last IC report.

They say nothing about "reasonable suspicion" of Trump's involvement with Russian governemnts.
It's made up in your brain

all they have said is there is consensus in the US intelligence community that Russia’s operation (DNC/Podesta) was designed in part to help Trump

Trump is dirty as sin idiot.
Manefort
Flynn
Sessions
Tillerson
Trumps own words
You are an idiot.
 
Documents leaked by Snowden in 2013 revealed that the FVEY have been spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on surveillance of citizens.

In the late 1990s, the existence of ECHELON was disclosed to the public, triggering a major debate in the European Parliament and, to a lesser extent, the United States Congress. As part of efforts in the ongoing War on Terror since 2001, the FVEY further expanded their surveillance capabilities, with much emphasis placed on monitoring the World Wide Web. The former NSA contractor Edward Snowden described the Five Eyes as a "supra-national intelligence organization that doesn't answer to the known laws of its own countries.

Despite the impact of Snowden's disclosures, some experts in the intelligence community believe that no amount of global concern or outrage will affect the Five Eyes relationship, which to this day remains one of the most comprehensive known espionage alliances in history.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
 
Trump is dirty as sin idiot.
Manefort
Flynn
Sessions
Tillerson
Trumps own words
You are an idiot.
:321:you idiot partisans are sooo desperate.
The only one I might consider compromised is Manefort as he really did have deep ties to Viktor Yanukovych.
I'm not saying he was ( and he wasn't around but a month or 2) -but there's a connection to a connection to Russia.
The rest? :lolup:
 
gawd you are so mendacious. You post about the "17 intelligence agencies" which can ONLY mean the IC report.

Then you call me an idiot, and quote a report about a 6 inter-agency joint task force and call me an idiot?
WTF is wrong with you?

How about the Congressional Intelligence Committees investigation ? I mean what is your POINT here?

Of course there are investigations - but as has been repeatedly banged into your brain there is no evidence of collusion!

It's too bad you dropped out of high school before you mastered reading comprehension, anabel.

Otherwise you might have noticed the parts of the article I linked that stated....

"....the CIA was allegedly shown a tape with a compromising conversation about money being funneled from the Kremlin to Trump’s campaign,...."

As well as....

"....the FBI was fed the now-infamous dossier alleging that Russian operatives had sensitive information that would embarrass and undermine Trump, and that there was “a continuing exchange of information during the [presidential] campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.”

Or maybe if you just pulled your head far enough out of Trump's asshole, you might be able to actually see something other than his shit.
 
:321:you idiot partisans are sooo desperate.
The only one I might consider compromised is Manefort as he really did have deep ties to Viktor Yanukovych.
I'm not saying he was ( and he wasn't around but a month or 2) -but there's a connection to a connection to Russia.
The rest? :lolup:

The rest?
Are you serious?
Flynn was an advisor to Erdogan,
violated the Logan act the lied about it.

Sessions lied about meeting the Russian Ambassador to Congress under oath. He should be in prison.

Tillerson withheld untold e-mails from investigators. You will hear all about it soon enough.
Trump is illegally profiting from the office of the Presidency. The Foreign Emoluments Clause.

They are dirty and you, as a cheerleader are complicit and a traitor
 
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It's too bad you dropped out of high school before you mastered reading comprehension, anabel.

Otherwise you might have noticed the parts of the article I linked that stated....

"....the CIA was allegedly shown a tape with a compromising conversation about money being funneled from the Kremlin to Trump’s campaign,...."

As well as....

"....the FBI was fed the now-infamous dossier alleging that Russian operatives had sensitive information that would embarrass and undermine Trump, and that there was “a continuing exchange of information during the [presidential] campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.”

Or maybe if you just pulled your head far enough out of Trump's asshole, you might be able to actually see something other than his shit.
you are posting like some kind of faggot with your girlie names for me.
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Look. like it's been said over and over there are investigations-nobody is disputing it-however all I've heard -
and there is so much noise out there - is that the FBI has an investigation.
I've never seen any info on a joint task force,and from what I'm reading here it looks like this has been going on since spring? SO WHERE'S THE BEEF??

We hear this and that, reports and investigations,but we never hear when they are shut down.
Have you heard anything about the Clinton Foundation investigation being shut down?
There was one going on by the FBI concurrent thru the election..

So once again..the "where's there's smoke there's fire" meme is just that, unless we find collusion.
You guys can keep running around with your hair on fire as long as you prefer - you look like idiots
using this as some kina proof of Trumps guilt -but hey have at it.
It wouldn't be the first time you Dems lost your shit.
 
The rest?
Are you serious?
Flynn was an advisor to Erdogan,
violated the Logan act the lied about it.

Sessions lied about meeting the Russian Ambassador to Congress under oath. He should be in prison.

Tillerson withheld untold e-mails from investigators. You will here all about it soon enough.
Trump is illegally profiting from the office of the Presidency. The Foreign Emoluments Clause.

They are dirty and you, as a cheerleader are complicit and a traitor
Flynn was poorly vetted, true. I had forgotten that. but that makes him a foreign lobbiest-
it doesn't make him "dirty" and a traitor as much as you desire it to be so.

I heard something about Tillerson, i don't think it was withholding -it seemed more like mislabeling
but whatever it is/was about Exxon and climate change the doc's WERE turned over (2.5 million docs)
and t has nothing to do with Trump.

Sessions was clearly not meeting the Russian ambassador in any manner different then Russian ambassador met with hundreds of DC politicos.

The emoluments clause is laughable - a few whacked out "ethics" guys who claim a POTUS automatically has to divest everything- is nowhere original intent/text.

Nothing but smoke.
 
how can it be proved? Do you think if POTUS did this he'd leave a trail?

I look at the totality of the evidence -somebody(s) is out to seriously damage Trump-agreed?
Is it just the IC or is it Obama and the IC?

We know Obama loosened up the requirement for NSA sharing to other intelligence agencies
or low level raw data to generate reports , which can then be leaked.
More reports and more eyes mean greater leakage..which we've seen.

Nap is a levelheaded dude -he's big on the 4th- and while this HAS to be speculation it does fit the pattern

Why would President Obama give two fucks about damaging dump? He knows dump is already damaged!
 
Flynn was poorly vetted, true. I had forgotten that. but that makes him a foreign lobbiest-
it doesn't make him "dirty" and a traitor as much as you desire it to be so.

I heard something about Tillerson, i don't think it was withholding -it seemed more like mislabeling
but whatever it is/was about Exxon and climate change the doc's WERE turned over (2.5 million docs)
and t has nothing to do with Trump.

Sessions was clearly not meeting the Russian ambassador in any manner different then Russian ambassador met with hundreds of DC politicos.

The emoluments clause is laughable - a few whacked out "ethics" guys who claim a POTUS automatically has to divest everything- is nowhere original intent/text.

Nothing but smoke.

Where there is smoke there is fire.
The e-mails were not turned over. You are lying and the charge against Tillerson will be fraud.

Sessions is guilty of lying to Congress under oath. That is perjury, with a 5 year sentence. I call that dirty.

The Emoluments Clause is part of the Constitution.....like I said you are a traitor. You disgust me.
 
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Yet when the report is something negative about Obama or Clinton you lap it right up.

Not to mention how willing he is to blindly accept reports sourced by ANONYMOUS SOURCES from prominent fake news bastion FAUX NEWS!
 
politically damaged -not brain damaged such as yourself



This entire administration is a fluke. .............President Obama knew that when he rightfully called dump a carnival barker.

The GOPIgs had to cheat to get him into office. They knew sane Americans would not have put such a disgusting failure in office.
 
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you are posting like some kind of faggot with your girlie names for me.

This from a "guy" who calls himself "anatta"????? :lolup:

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Look. like it's been said over and over there are investigations-nobody is disputing it-however all I've heard -
and there is so much noise out there - is that the FBI has an investigation.
I've never seen any info on a joint task force,and from what I'm reading here it looks like this has been going on since spring? SO WHERE'S THE BEEF??

We hear this and that, reports and investigations,but we never hear when they are shut down.
Have you heard anything about the Clinton Foundation investigation being shut down?
There was one going on by the FBI concurrent thru the election..

So once again..the "where's there's smoke there's fire" meme is just that, unless we find collusion.
You guys can keep running around with your hair on fire as long as you prefer - you look like idiots
using this as some kina proof of Trumps guilt -but hey have at it.
It wouldn't be the first time you Dems lost your shit.

Awwwwwww....... does it hurt your little girlie feelings when we express our opinion and belief that Comrade Trumpsky is a dirty traitor? Are the hot tears dripping off your cheeks and splattering on your keyboard interfering with your typing?

Are you really that thin skinned? Do you have some kind of man crush boner for Trumpsky?

There is CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that Trump may have colluded with the Russian govt to sway public opinion against HRC and toward him. I never claimed there was rock solid, irrefutable, smoking gun proof. If you don't know the difference between evidence and proof, then you really shouldn't be taking part in any conversation about this subject.

Talk about someone losing their shit and making himself look like an idiot.... :palm:
 
how can it be proved? Do you think if POTUS did this he'd leave a trail?

I look at the totality of the evidence -somebody(s) is out to seriously damage Trump-agreed?
Is it just the IC or is it Obama and the IC?

We know Obama loosened up the requirement for NSA sharing to other intelligence agencies
or low level raw data to generate reports , which can then be leaked.
More reports and more eyes mean greater leakage..which we've seen.

Nap is a levelheaded dude -he's big on the 4th- and while this HAS to be speculation it does fit the pattern

When gomer said the following:
I love to see idiots use so many "ifs" and "mays", "could haves" and "would haves". It proves they have nothing.

Was he possibly referring to the left's accusations of Trump colluding with Russia and "stealing" the election? :dunno:
 
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