Trump at 50%?
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Darth Omar
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That's the point no? All during the election the President's core base could never climb above 40% - 42%, now...even if the same polling data is used, its the first time the numbers have climbed to 50%. Who knows what the real numbers are...but one things for sure, after almost 4 months of constant negative press since Nov. 8th 2016...the numbers have climbed regardless of the absolute accuracy of the polls, the one quantifiable constant is the increase in popularity.
Apparently talking over the heads of the press works.And it tastes like sour piss to the press. Its the same tactic used by Ronald Reagan with one difference, The president can now use the www to hold his own daily talk with THE PEOPLE. Instead of second hand skewed information with a negative spin...THE PEOPLE get the message from horse's mouth...or ass, depending upon political affiliation, in real time.
It was an online poll and Trump does better in those than he does with the others.
After the election, it's probably a safe assumption to think they are more accurate.
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I just want to make sure you're on record here: are you really saying that online polls are more accurate?
the nbc one was most interesting to me.
It showed Trump at -4. Yet it also showed the GOP with much better numbers than the democrats. If I recall correctly 55-60% thought the economy would improve under trump and the right track/ wrong track was the best its been in what looks like a decade.
It showed Trump at -4. Yet it also showed the GOP with much better numbers than the democrats. If I recall correctly 55-60% thought the economy would improve under trump and the right track/ wrong track was the best its been in what looks like a decade.
look for frothing from the left as far as you can see..MSNBC is becoming Koffee Klatch syndrome central;
where all the lib media sits around deconstructing TrumpSpeech.
Trump is never gonna win them over -his communication skills are a generous D -not a C or C minus as he claims.
Screw that noise.
If he can wrangle up Congress from a permanent state of lethargy into some kind of legislating-
that's all I care about.
Darth Omar
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Not just me lol. Listen to Morning Joe say the same thing on the clip.
The theory is that some Trump supporters are more openly supportive in online polls than they are when actually talking to the pollster.
Do you have reason to dispute it?
DigitalDave
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Online polls tend to attract the more dogmatic. Those that are incensed one way or the other. They hardly ever draw accurate numbers. Otherwise, Ron Paul would have been president 4 years ago.
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I don't dispute that people are more honest online. But you know what an online poll is, right?
There is nothing scientific at all about an online poll. It's really WAY far gone to start asserting that online polls have any accuracy or merit whatsoever. You're already far gone, btw.
I agree thingy....but lets be clear, you're not asserting that 'in person' polls are any more accurate are you....?
I think people lie in polls on a regular basis....people inherently know what they should answer to certain questions because they want others to view them in a "virtuous" light....
being politically correct has become a very powerful motivator to answer questions in a certain way rather than in a truthful way..especially to strangers.
Take a question like "do you think the country is going in the right direction".....seems straightforward enough but can mean totally opposite things to people....
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i would assume whoever makes these polls picks the respondents?
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DigitalDave
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Looks like you're right on that: http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-819f-d2c6-a7db-d9bfcf110001
2000 respondents, 37% Conservative, 31% Liberal, 23% moderate, the other 9% didn't declare
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and no matter how they profess to claiming the poll is 'random'......they DO PICK the respondents...and word the questions....and glean what the answers show.....
reminds me of the 'hanging chap' recount....
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Say what you want about "regular" polls, NOVA - but they're generally pretty accurate. We use exit polls in 3rd world countries to monitor accuracy in their elections.
Even the much-maligned polls this past election were pretty close, if you look at the polls the day before the election. Hillary DID win the national vote by about 2% - which is right around where most national polls were. Most of the battleground states that ended up going Trump showed a lot of late break in the polls for Trump.
Even the much-maligned polls this past election were pretty close, if you look at the polls the day before the election. Hillary DID win the national vote by about 2% - which is right around where most national polls were. Most of the battleground states that ended up going Trump showed a lot of late break in the polls for Trump.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
2 days ago ..
Trump’s Job Approval Stands at Just 44 Percent as Partisan Splits Reign
President Donald Trump's job approval rating stands at just 44 percent — a record low for a newly inaugurated commander-in-chief — and half of Americans say that his early challenges suggest unique and systemic problems with his administration, according to a new poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal.
In the poll, conducted February 18-22, 48 percent of Americans said they disapprove of Trump's performance as president and 32 percent said that his first month in office demonstrates that he is not up to the job.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/tr...tands-just-44-percent-partisan-splits-n725621
Trump at 50%?
Fake news.
Trump’s Job Approval Stands at Just 44 Percent as Partisan Splits Reign
President Donald Trump's job approval rating stands at just 44 percent — a record low for a newly inaugurated commander-in-chief — and half of Americans say that his early challenges suggest unique and systemic problems with his administration, according to a new poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal.
In the poll, conducted February 18-22, 48 percent of Americans said they disapprove of Trump's performance as president and 32 percent said that his first month in office demonstrates that he is not up to the job.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/tr...tands-just-44-percent-partisan-splits-n725621
Trump at 50%?
Fake news.
"how did you vote' or who did you vote for' is a far, far different than "do you think the country is going in the right direction"......assuming people give a truthful answer.
which is not always the case to begin with....
People in some places would not dare give you the 'wrong' answer to even the "who did you vote for" question for fear of their lives.....and thats not only in 3rd world countrys
DigitalDave
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Looks like 66% of the respondents also were less than college educated.
Educ: < College 1315 66%
Educ: Bachelors degree 444 22%
Educ: Post-grad 241 12%
N 2000
Educ: < College 1315 66%
Educ: Bachelors degree 444 22%
Educ: Post-grad 241 12%
N 2000
To conclude what a poll 'suggests' or 'demonstrates' could be fake news in itself.....that is just someone's opinion.....
I'm sure that FACT actually means something to you.....just as pointing out the FACT that her entire 2% can be explained by the vote from one extremely liberal state, and THAT means something to others.
those same polls also pointed out Hillary would win, hands down, no contest, Trump doesn't have a prayer, etc....totally inaccurate, wouldn't you agree.
You should be intelligent enough to realize that polls can be manipulated by the pollsters....
I choose to conclude that they not only can be, but ARE manipulated by some pollsters.....
You choose to believe some pollsters and not others for obviously the same reason.
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A) I thoroughly enjoy how sensitive you are about Hillary winning the popular vote. Rest assured, it is a reminder I will keep posting.
B) The PUNDITS called it a slam dunk for Hillary; not the polls. Like I said - the polls were actually pretty accurate.