Surprised and happy, Trump obey's.

Damocles said:
What we know. Congress, per the constitution, has absolute authority over immigration and naturalization, which they then wrote into a statute giving the President authority for pretty much whatever reason he deemed of national security to simply ban immigration or travel from any nation.

My guess is the SCOTUS will rule in his favor.
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Nope. He'll have to re word his Muslim ban, and get rid of the allowance for Christians.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Bannon and Flynn, his racist, anarchist cohorts are trying to convince the orange clown to disregard the courts...
So far, cooler heads have won the influence game with the orange idiot, but this clown is so volatile anything could still happen... especially if the next court ruling upholds the block...
Your avatar is perfect Trumptard. I wouldn't change a thing...
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That is what I thought Chicken Bukkkle. You suck at predictions. And you suck at logic and thinking in general.

You're a one trick troll, nothing more.
 
NOVA said:
Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies-sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler. THE LOSER.
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Are you saying Hitler didn't use the same language against the press, and the Jews?

Loser indeed.
 
Midas Whale67 said:
That's right. Get used to swallowing your anger cuz I gotta feeling you're going to be one spittin' viper real early and often.

Smile :innocent:
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Um...no. You're going to see trump have an absolute meltdown when Congressional Republicans start to push back on his perceived absolute power. That, and the fact that daily demonstrations against him make it impossible for him to keep citing his 'huge' support in this country.

The vast majority of the world is against trump. It's going to drive him crazy.
 
Jarod said:
Maybe Damocles, who thinks he understands the Constitution better than me, can explain it.

One of the real problems with some conservatives is that they think they know more than they really do.
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yea. Those kind of people are really annoying to people like me who actually do know more than they really do!
 
Jarod said:
Still can't violate the Constitution, do you not understand that?
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Again. The congress has absolute over Immigration and Naturalization. In this instance they passed a law granting the President Authority, in this circumstance, to exercise that authority. There is no Constitutional or Legislative challenge that will stand.

It really isn't difficult. There is no constitutional violation. Just as Congress can give Obama authority to change the ACA using executive authority, they can in this case grant him authority to exercise their power...

It isn't difficult. Simple and direct path, the people who have the authority can grant the Executive the ability to exercise their authority under certain circumstances.

And yes, I clearly understand the Constitution better than you do. You really should stay out of Constitutional law, you'll never measure up.
 
Damocles said:
Again. The congress has absolute over Immigration and Naturalization. In this instance they passed a law granting the President Authority, in this circumstance, to exercise that authority. There is no Constitutional or Legislative challenge that will stand.

It really isn't difficult. There is no constitutional violation. Just as Congress can give Obama authority to change the ACA using executive authority, they can in this case grant him authority to exercise their power...

It isn't difficult. Simple and direct path, the people who have the authority can grant the Executive the ability to exercise their authority under certain circumstances.

And yes, I clearly understand the Constitution better than you do. You really should stay out of Constitutional law, you'll never measure up.
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Time will tell which of you to is right. The courts will determine that and in the process Trump will have respected the rule of law and the courts will determine the balance of power and constitutionality of his order proving our government works. I can see as a libertarian that will be a terrible blow to you but I'm satisfied. :)
 
Damocles said:
Again. The congress has absolute over Immigration and Naturalization. In this instance they passed a law granting the President Authority, in this circumstance, to exercise that authority. There is no Constitutional or Legislative challenge that will stand.

It really isn't difficult. There is no constitutional violation. Just as Congress can give Obama authority to change the ACA using executive authority, they can in this case grant him authority to exercise their power...

It isn't difficult. Simple and direct path, the people who have the authority can grant the Executive the ability to exercise their authority under certain circumstances.

And yes, I clearly understand the Constitution better than you do. You really should stay out of Constitutional law, you'll never measure up.
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You are a fucking idiot.

There are clearly potential constitutional issues here. I can see off the top of my head there is a possibility that this violates the first and 14th amendments. If you say it's impossible your flat out wrong. I do understand Congress gave their authority to the president, I never said otherwise. That does not mean There can be no constitutional issues. You clearly do not understand constitutional law. I don't know how the Supreme Court will rule, but even a high school Civics student with a C+ average can see that constitutional issues are possible here.

For example the S.Ct could say it's a Muslim ban, it would be unconstitutional because it would. Isolate the first Amendment.

Apparently so can a Federal Judge or two!
 
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Jarod said:
You are a fucking idiot.

There are clearly potential constitutional issues here. I can see off the top of my head there is a possibility that this violates the first and 14th amendments. If you say it's impossible your flat out wrong. I do understand Congress gave their authority to the president, I never said otherwise. That does not mean There can be no constitutional issues. You clearly do not understand constitutional law. I don't know how the Supreme Court will rule, but even a high school Civics student with a C+ average can see that constitutional issues are possible here.

Apparently so can a Federal Judge or two!
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more like probable.
 
I don't care how much you call their authority Absolute, they cannot violate the First Amendment or the fourteenth.

Fucking dumbass!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
My guess is that the Administration will reword the order to make it constitutionally valid but the travel ban will stand. Trump sure is expending a lot of political capital on this though.
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He could very easily do that, but for some reason doesn't want to bend.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
My guess is that the Administration will reword the order to make it constitutionally valid but the travel ban will stand. Trump sure is expending a lot of political capital on this though.
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The bigger question is what crawled up Damo's ass and died?
 
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