Surprised and happy, Trump obey's.

insane. the 9th is gonna rule. it's fairly liberal..it goes to SCOTUS. SCOTUS either defers to normative executive powers on immigration - or narrowly finds some obscure law to stop it.

That's the scenario. bank on it.
 
NOVA said:
Did you really expect anything else from the most liberal appeals court in the US ?....and do you really think this is over ?

When it gets to the Supreme Court and he loses, as Obama did at least 13 times by unanimous decisions, then you can have something to crow about....
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Exactly, and it likely will go to the SC.

What this demonstrates succinctly, at least here even though it's a minute sampling of Democrats, is this isn't about anything but an inability to accept loss with dignity. Ironically, the very thing they're railing 24/7 about with President Trump.

This isn't about keeping America safe from terrorism, illegal criminals residing in our cities, or anything that keeps us safe and protected. No, it's about their inability to accept a decision rendered by the duly authorized persons of America who make up the Electoral College.

They are so engulfed in their hatred of the President they are willing to allow what's happening in Germany and Sweden to come to our shores. This isn't about the poor Muslims, Syrians, or ISIS terrorists coming here. It's not about protecting their children, Grand babies, or our way of life. It's about their hatred and inability to shake a loss. Pitiful.
 
Granule said:
I like your thinking here, Rune, even though you think it's vile and disgusting. Yes, I think something like that will eventually happen. Buckle up, liberal! ;)

That remains to be seen with the new President. God only knows how far Trump can, and will, go to fulfill his promises.
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Did I say it was vile and disgusting asshole?
Illegal labor is downpressing wages you fool.
 
anatta said:
insane. the 9th is gonna rule. it's fairly liberal..it goes to SCOTUS. SCOTUS either defers to normative executive powers on immigration - or narrowly finds some obscure law to stop it.

That's the scenario. bank on it.
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It is already in violation of a law, that's why the judge stopped it and the Atourney General couldn't defend it.
 
It will go to the S.Ct, and I don't know what the result will be.... until then I am happy Trump is acquiesceing to the Courts and acknowledging their authority over him.
 
Rune said:
It is already in violation of a law, that's why the judge stopped it and the Atourney General couldn't defend it.
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TRO is not a ruling -it's an action pending a ruling.
Now it goes to the full 9th for a ruling - surely appealed to SCOTUS from there
 
anatta said:
insane. the 9th is gonna rule. it's fairly liberal..it goes to SCOTUS. SCOTUS either defers to normative executive powers on immigration - or narrowly finds some obscure law to stop it.

That's the scenario. bank on it.
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if i am not mistaken the 9th has also ruled in favor of these type of bans in the past, and they will have to follow precedent. so yes this is very likely to win on appeal. It's completely constitutional for the executive branch to control the borders. once again we are dealing with run away judicial activists that are basing their rulings on how many facebook likes they'll get.
 
Jarod said:
There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It
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there were zero indictions of such a thing. you were just a retard and like most liberals whipped yourself up into an irrational frenzy.
 
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if i am not mistaken the 9th has also ruled in favor of these type of bans in the past, and they will have to follow precedent. so yes this is very likely to win on appeal. It's completely constitutional for the executive branch to control the borders. once again we are dealing with run away judicial activists that are basing their rulings on how many facebook likes they'll get.
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This is correct. I don't know how the courts will rule. The point of this thread was that I am proud that the president is obeying the current ruling of the court. It's important that he acknowledges that he is limited and subject to their jurisdiction.
 
no way SCOTUS is going to throw out existing legislation. I expect a ruling along narrow readings of the pertinent statutes - and I think they're gonna invalidate by that most narrow of reasons,instead of getting into full scale separation of powers arguments..I could be wrong -it depends on the Orals of course as well
 
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what part of the constitution limits the executive branch re: illegal aliens and border control?
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Many parts, one that comes to mind right away is the 14th amendment equal protection clause.
 
Granule said:
Oh, I wouldn't take that as a good sign, jackass. There's still the issue of illegal entry into this country, which YOUR side shows no interest in stopping.

No, this backing off is just temporary. I'm not sure what Trump is going to do, but for me, I'd just go after all the assholes who aren't upholding the law and replace them with true supporters of the law.
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Once the TRO is overruled; liberals will just cry harder when the illegals are focused on, even more.
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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My guess is he'll simply appeal. That's how these things work.
 
NOVA said:
Did you really expect anything else from the most liberal appeals court in the US ?....and do you really think this is over ?

When it gets to the Supreme Court and he loses, as Obama did at least 44 times by unanimous decisions, then you can have something to crow about....

This term, the federal government argued an incredible 13 cases without gaining a single vote, not even that of one of President Obama’s own nominees, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. That brings his total to 44 unanimous losses.
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For once, Rune has had a good idea.
He's suggested that it should be made a felony to enter the US illegally.

Sounds like a solution.
 
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