Heroin greater killer than guns in 2015?
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Don't worry, Trump promised the states that are plagued, a lot of small rural towns, that he will take care of this!
SmarterthanYou
rebel
this is, in fact, very fucking true
So why is it illegal
eroin is usually cheaper than prescription drugs. Opiate pain medications cost the uninsured about $1 per milligram; so a 60-milligram pill will cost $60. You can obtain the equivalent amount of heroin for about one-tenth the price.
This may be news to you, but it's likely not to some of your neighbors, friends and family members.
Last year, the Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte spent time trying to better understand the patients who were coming into detox for heroin. What they found were cops, lawyers, nurses and ministers who came from some of the best neighborhoods in the area.
Most of them shared a common story: "We used to take pills, but now we inject heroin."
For years, we have been railing about the flagrant abuse of pain pills in the United States. Former President Bill Clinton called me a couple years ago after he lost two friends to accidental prescription drug overdose. As we dug into the issue together, we were stunned to learn 80% of the world's pain pills are consumed in the United States, which has just 5% of the world's population.
As a result, drug overdose is the leading causes of unintentional death for Americans. Someone dies in this manner every 19 minutes. That is more deaths than from car accidents.
The response to these tragic statistics has been gratifying and effective, but somewhat shortsighted.
Doctors have been less willing to prescribe medications, especially in states like Florida, formerly known for its pill mills, where tighter restrictions on prescribers led to a 23% drop in overdose deaths between 2010 and 2012.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/29/health/gupta-unintended-consequences/
what they don't tell you about Florida is we never had a heroin problem, but as soon as they made it damn near impossible to get pain meds -we got cheap heroin just like the north east.
Make it more difficult to get precripton drugs, and illicit drug fill the market
This may be news to you, but it's likely not to some of your neighbors, friends and family members.
Last year, the Carolinas Medical Center in Charlotte spent time trying to better understand the patients who were coming into detox for heroin. What they found were cops, lawyers, nurses and ministers who came from some of the best neighborhoods in the area.
Most of them shared a common story: "We used to take pills, but now we inject heroin."
For years, we have been railing about the flagrant abuse of pain pills in the United States. Former President Bill Clinton called me a couple years ago after he lost two friends to accidental prescription drug overdose. As we dug into the issue together, we were stunned to learn 80% of the world's pain pills are consumed in the United States, which has just 5% of the world's population.
As a result, drug overdose is the leading causes of unintentional death for Americans. Someone dies in this manner every 19 minutes. That is more deaths than from car accidents.
The response to these tragic statistics has been gratifying and effective, but somewhat shortsighted.
Doctors have been less willing to prescribe medications, especially in states like Florida, formerly known for its pill mills, where tighter restrictions on prescribers led to a 23% drop in overdose deaths between 2010 and 2012.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/29/health/gupta-unintended-consequences/
what they don't tell you about Florida is we never had a heroin problem, but as soon as they made it damn near impossible to get pain meds -we got cheap heroin just like the north east.
Make it more difficult to get precripton drugs, and illicit drug fill the market
Yes, people are going to use the drugs one way or the other, with a prescription or not.
The courts are now full of heroin prosecution again since they cracked down on the prescription use.
Why is it illegal?
why? you tell me..I've long been espousing a full bore libertarian approach with all drugs -it's the only way to mamange addiction -
since medical practice in the US absolutely forbids prescribing to anyone who shows any addiction based symptoms -even tolerance.
I didn't realize the Florida courts are now crammed with heroin cases -not surprising -but thanks for the info
I agree with you. At least you are consistent, compared to many Cons.
cawacko
Well-known member
LOL. And what's the hypocrisy Jarod?
I'm usually more libertarian then real conservative. Live and let live for sure.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
because GOVERNMENT was empowered by a bunch of frightened control freaks and assumed the authority to determine what people can and cannot do to their own bodies
Guns absolutly legal (although people use them to kill others)
Drugs Illegal (people only use them to kill themselves)
cawacko
Well-known member
I see. So liberals aren't hypocritical because they want guns and drugs both illegal?
Well there's this:
One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Ehrlichman's comment is the first time the war on drugs has been plainly characterized as a political assault designed to help Nixon win, and keep, the White House.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/
It would be a less hypocritical position (because guns kill others), but very few liberals want guns completely illegal, or drugs completely legal.
nobody liberal or conservative really wants to tackle the problem..all they can do is add on more DEA regs, make it more and more difficult to get opiates,and deligitimize pain management as real medicine..
The DEA is Nixon's revenge- a grotesque agency that doesn't care about the suffering ( now they've changed hydrocodone to a Schedule 2) and still go after medical marijuana as a business (RICO) preventing banking etc.
all they care about is "drug diversion" of pain meds -so the less prescribed is always what they want.
The are freaking monsters who enable the drug cartels to flourish
The DEA is Nixon's revenge- a grotesque agency that doesn't care about the suffering ( now they've changed hydrocodone to a Schedule 2) and still go after medical marijuana as a business (RICO) preventing banking etc.
all they care about is "drug diversion" of pain meds -so the less prescribed is always what they want.
The are freaking monsters who enable the drug cartels to flourish
cawacko
Well-known member
So you pushing your rep to legalize heroin so you will be less hypocritical?