Obama's TRUE Legacy

Ralph said:
Yep..part time employment at Mickey Ds and food stamps make for a good life. :) Trump will bring back REAL JOBS that pay well, full time jobs with benefits...HELL he's already saved more REAL jobs than Soetoro did in 8 years and he's yet to take office. A fast food economy is laughable. But of course the Brothers do luv their Big Mac's.
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Your claims are just more bullshit RNC talking points.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
You idiots always forget what they country was like in 2006. You blame Obama for the failures of the previous administration. It seems that the country is doing better now than then, but I won't bother to show you proof, because you won't understand it, anyway.
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2006 was the best bonus year in my entire life so we know you are full of shit now. True working people were much better off in 2006 than they are now.
 
christiefan915 said:
That's true in any administration, be honest.
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Obama was handed a real bum card back in 2008, to his credit the economy has turned around but the total US debt is now heading north towards $20 trillion. Somebody, maybe Trump, will have to address that sooner or later.

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Trump chumps ignore the FACT that major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so...of which the GOP rejected...until Trump offers the EXACT SAME THING along with penalties for outsourcing!
 
Taichiliberal said:
Trump chumps ignore the FACT that major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so...of which the GOP rejected...until Trump offers the EXACT SAME THING along with penalties for outsourcing!
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Are you referring to the HIRE Act? I sincerely hope that is not what you are basing your comment on. Is there another?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Trump chumps ignore the FACT that major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so...of which the GOP rejected...until Trump offers the EXACT SAME THING along with penalties for outsourcing!
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Obamabots ignore the REASON why major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so...
 
Quote Originally Posted by doctordog View Post
2006 was the best bonus year in my entire life so we know you are full of shit now. True working people were much better off in 2006 than they are now.

This is proof of nothing" #70

"Proof"?
I'm not even sure it's plausible.

Obamabots ignore the REASON why major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so..." # 72

“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
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It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields

The stock-market has flourished during the Obama administration.

Of course, it had a long way to recover from, considering how devastating the Bush recession was to the U.S. economy including our stock-markets.

But we're better off after 8 years of Obama; a vastly different story than after 8 years of Bush (younger).
 
sear said:
Quote Originally Posted by doctordog View Post
2006 was the best bonus year in my entire life so we know you are full of shit now. True working people were much better off in 2006 than they are now.

This is proof of nothing" #70

"Proof"?
I'm not even sure it's plausible.

Obamabots ignore the REASON why major corporations WITH HELD reopening job positions in this country during Obama's administration....despite the fact that he offered tax incentives to do so..." # 72

“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
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It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields

The stock-market has flourished during the Obama administration.

Of course, it had a long way to recover from, considering how devastating the Bush recession was to the U.S. economy including our stock-markets.

But we're better off after 8 years of Obama; a vastly different story than after 8 years of Bush (younger).
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You are wasting your time.

JPP Righties will NEVER acknowledge that Obama brought this nation back from the economic precipice that disastrous Republican policies had brought us to the edge of.
 
"You are wasting your time." ZG #75

It's typing practice.

"JPP Righties will NEVER acknowledge that Obama brought this nation back from the economic precipice that disastrous Republican policies had brought us to the edge of. #75

Whatever.
Their validation is extraneous.

Reality is reality whether they acknowledge it as reality or not.

I'm not saying Obama's prettier than Bush. That's subjective.

My observations of fact are based on valid scientific criteria.

- stock market closing numbers 8 years apart. Contrast Bush to Obama

- private sector jobs added. Verify with % unemployment, which Obama has cut roughly in half from the Bush administration high

- U.S. military troops dying in combat; reduced substantially in the Obama administration

It's simply numerical. It wouldn't occur to me to squabble about which one is "prettier", or "better" on basis of subjective criteria. President Obama has simply been the better president, by utilitarian standard; the most good for the most citizens.

BTW:
commenting on the ~20 million Obamacare ACA added to the roles of the insured, President Elect Trump said:

“It will be repeal & replace. It will be essentially simultaneously. It will be various segments you understand, but will most likely be on the same day or the same week.” President Elect Trump at his only post election victory news conference in New York 17/01/11 / FNS

After challenge to VP Elect Pence from Chris Wallace, Pence added:
“... you're seeing an incredible increase in premiums on Americans. Obamacare has failed. We're going to repeal it. But at the same time we're gunna pass the kind of legislation that will lower the cost of health insurance without growing the size of government. I would anticipate in the first hundred days that uh we'll deliver on that promise to the American People.” VP Elect Pence 17/01/15 on FNS

Please note the wording:
" essentially simultaneously. It will be various segments you understand, but will most likely be on the same day or the same week.”

Pence said the first hundred days.

SO:

Trump's clock starts ticking the moment ACA is impacted by Republican obstructionism, whether legislative or executive.

Pence's clock starts ticking once Trump's oath of office is complete.

We'll see what the U.S. healthcare landscape looks like in May, if there is one.
 
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