Evil Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison Left Primed To Undermine Trump's Presidency.

Bill said:
Not to be picky or anything, but hillary did win(the most votes) her defeat was in the undemocratic electoral college........
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If you eliminate the people's republic of California, Trump would have won the popular vote by over two million votes.
 
Hillary Destroyer said:
If you believe that Hillary and Obama aren't thin skinned narcissists then you just aren't paying attention.

Your entire post shows that you really didn't get what Grind was trying to say.

You are so consumed with embarrassment about being wrong about the election that you will believe the worst about Trump no matter what. Even lame stories about Bolton and his mustache.
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For starters, I wasn't wrong about the election.

Hillary & Obama have somewhat thin skin. Trump has the epidermal equivalent of tissue paper.

You are completely, 100% deluded about Trump. Trump has deep psychological issues - we have not had a President with this kind of derangement previously. For whatever reason, you & many others are just completely blind to it.

You're marks in the big con. And easy ones.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
thing1 sorry but I know more about politics and political strategy than you. If you just said to yourself "I am going to trust grind for 6 months as a test" you'd be 10 times more informed and knowledgable than you are now. Take the grind challenge bro.
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^ trump clone. "I know more about ISIS than the generals, do, believe MEEEEEE."
 
philly rabbit said:
If you eliminate the people's republic of California, Trump would have won the popular vote by over two million votes.
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That argument is just as bad as the liberal obsession with the popular vote. We aren't eliminating California just as the Presidency isn't decided by popular vote.
 
philly rabbit said:
If you eliminate the people's republic of California, Trump would have won the popular vote by over two million votes.
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Why do you think the votes in your city, or state should carry more weight than other citizens??

You wanna discount some ppl's vote, start w/ your own, your state...........
 
philly rabbit said:
You want to know how shocked and paranoid these Democrats are? They are so devastated by their recent election defeat, They have thought up every excuse imaginable from the FBI to the electoral college, to fake news as the reasons they lost and most of them still claim that the country is still behind them! But we haven't seen anything yet my fiends, wait until Trump takes office. This is where this group of social planning leftists will really shine through with their anti democratic process, anti american diatribe against everything Trump attempts.

But I also feel the people we must also keep an eye on are the never Trump republicans. You're going to hate me for saying this, but right now I trust the Chuck Shumer Democrats sooner than the RINOS as far as cooperating to at least a certain extent.

Watch the RINOS during this undermining. They never really had a problem with a Hillary presidency in the first place. Hillary was in their club.
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you stole the government from then majority


we will always hate you for that evil
 
Bill said:
Why do you think the votes in your city, or state should carry more weight than other citizens??

You wanna discount some ppl's vote, start w/ your own, your state...........
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I don't want California and New York determining all the national elections while the rest of the states become spectators.
 
There will be war. We will use scorched earth tactics against the evil Republican party, the greatest threat this nation has ever known. Either America will fall or the Republican party will, either outcome is preferable to giving an evil monster like Trump power.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
you know when you troll someone, and you tell them not to get mad, and then they get even madder? And you are just sitting there calmly telling them to just be calm and not get mad, (knowing that such a statement will just piss them off more) and it sends them into a frenzy? But then you get to sit there looking all calm cool and collected while the other party loses their shit? That is what trump is doing to liberals and especially people like warren. He's going to make pocahauntus look like a moonbat. She tries to play his game but fails spectacularly.
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You know Grind, at least the fascists are honest. People like you who hide behind humor are the worst.
 
@Grind

War of the Worlds is iconic because of Orson Welles' radio broadcast, and, because people still love HG Wells. It was a YUUUGE letdown to most everyone that saw it for that reason. Spielberg made it, so it should at least have been entertaining.
 
philly rabbit said:
You want to know how shocked and paranoid these Democrats are? They are so devastated by their recent election defeat, They have thought up every excuse imaginable from the FBI to the electoral college, to fake news as the reasons they lost and most of them still claim that the country is still behind them! But we haven't seen anything yet my fiends, wait until Trump takes office. This is where this group of social planning leftists will really shine through with their anti democratic process, anti american diatribe against everything Trump attempts.

But I also feel the people we must also keep an eye on are the never Trump republicans. You're going to hate me for saying this, but right now I trust the Chuck Shumer Democrats sooner than the RINOS as far as cooperating to at least a certain extent.

Watch the RINOS during this undermining. They never really had a problem with a Hillary presidency in the first place. Hillary was in their club.
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sounds good to me it is what the repugs deserve after 8 years of blocking the dims
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
thereare things I like about him on a personal level. I liked obama on a personal level to. If you just wanted to have an honest conversation with me I'd be happy to tell you all the things I wont agree with him or support him on. The problem is I have to spend all my time addressing retarded arguments here.

I'll tell you a story about something that happened in my life.

In the year... 2005 I think.. I saw the movie "War of the Worlds" starring tom cruise. I saw it with a bunch of my friends that have really shitty taste in movies.. hence why we went to that movie. I'm talking.. they would call me up to see harold and kumar, wedding crashes, dumb fucking comedies, lame action flicks, etc. My friends always picked shit movies but I sometimes went along because it's good to be social now and then. And predictably after every movie some people would think the movie was "meh" and I would be like "well what did you expect? Of course this movie was going to be low brow and retarded"... after a while I would skip a bunch of these outings because I have a much more refined taste in cinema.

Anyway I went to this movie. It was predictably bad/dumb/retarded/not interesting/boring/stupid/meh. Par for the course for my moron friends. However when we left the movie, they were SHITTING ALL OVER IT to an absurd degree. Completely trashing it. Now the thing is... they weren't wrong... but I was like "um... are you guys not paying attention to the category of movies you go to?"

So after a while of everyone shitting on this movie and calling it the worst movie they ever seen... I started defending it. Not defending it as a good movie mind you, but just not as the worst movie we had ever seen. "No... that part wasn't THAT bad you guys...", "this scene was ok...", "It was an ok cinema experience, it wasn't terrible... I was at least moderately engaged throughout the movie"

And you see, an interesting thing happened. I was spending my time defending a moronic movie to my retard friends who didn't have a clue. After a while, it clearly looked like I LIKED this movie, I spent all my time defending it, saying it wasn't that bad. We've seen way worse... this movie was about average according to my friends shit line up.

Made no difference though.

So then a year later people bring it up again and people were like "oh ... you liked that movie right?"

The moral of the story is, Trump is war of the worlds. He will be an average president, not a disaster. But I have to argue with idiots on JPP all day that because I don't think he is literally hitler that I must agree with him. Or love him. Or have him be my favorite president.

I am a very principled person and I take my beliefs seriously. I do not compromise them. The things I like about trump are his gravitas, his war against P.C. culture, some of his anti-globalist stances, the fact that he defeated hillary clinton, the fact that he is a proven winner and has massive swagger and can face the slings and arrows from massive opposition and come out the victor, I love that he is showing how to normalize a new reality and people can't just say "this is unacceptable, it's 2016, this is not who we are" only to be proven dead wrong. I like the fact that on paper, he seems to be anti-war (or at least less war-monger-y than the neo-con hillary clinton). Lastly, I support conservative justices on the court (usually). And that's a big big big win for me.

But in short, Trump passes the personality test for me. He passes the "would you have the beer with him test"

And yes, I think trump has the capacity to be an ok president in terms of performance. I can very easily see him making awesome deals and just winning and driving liberals crazy. But time will tell.

I do not support his stance on privacy rights, against possibly fucking with net neutrality, I am not a protectionist when it comes to free trade, I don't know what he'll do on the drug war but you know where I stand on that. If he starts an unprovoked war, I will not support that either.

So if you want to talk about issues, I am there for you. But if you just go "hurrrrrr durrrrrrrrr he said something offenthive on twitter oh my gaul it's 2016" then yeah I'm gonna tell you to get fucked
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He is also against the CAGW fascists and wants to put us at the front of the queue for a trade deal.

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Bill said:
Not to be picky or anything, but hillary did win(the most votes) her defeat was in the undemocratic electoral college........
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How many more times will somebody bring that up? We have a first past the post system over here as well. It is perfectly possible for a party to win the most number of constituencies but lose the popular vote.

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Thing1 said:
I appreciate the analogy, and understand what you're trying to say. A couple of things:

1) War of the Worlds wasn't really that bad - it had some moments, imo. For a basic, sci-fi popcorn flick.
2) Wedding Crashers was brilliant
3) Trump IS that bad. No one is exaggerating. He's really a bad guy. At best, he's a narcissist & con man. The whole "don't take him literally" thing is just another way of saying that he never really tells the truth. There were over 3,500 lawsuits against him from contractors & small businesses who he basically ruined by stiffing them in billing. He's insanely thin-skinned and genuinely behaves like a child. We found out just today that he rejected John Bolton because he has a moustache.

I mean, I could keep going for hours. There is very little that is redeemable about this man. That he is President is one of the big cons in U.S. history. I see America as split according to who can easily see through Trump and his obvious act, and who inexplicably cannot.

There is no doubt: this is the nadir. No one is going over-the-top on this. There is no hysteria too extreme, no whining too whiny. Trump is a terrible, woeful & dangerous choice for President.
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Looks like the Clinton's will be in a state of permanent apoplexy for at least the next four years.

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